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HomekeepingGran said:
My hair on the other hand... :shock:

I can so relate to your shock and horror. As you know, I also have long hair and the first time I ever used homemade soap on my hair I was totally distraught. That ickey feeling from the soap residue was most alarming. The higher the superfat, the more residue and I SF to 8%. I had visions of having to wear a bandanna for life...............but the acid rinse takes it all out and leaves your hair soft and shiny.
 
I guess I should have used an ACV rinse on my hair before I jumped to conclusions. It will be a while before I shampoo again, though because my ends are going to need some time to recover from the lard/pectin gel and the Head & Shoulders. :? I may scalp wash only next time to give them a rest.

Thanks, friends, for all your suggestions.
 
HG, I always just do the scalp-wash, unless I've got paint or some such thing in my hair. Hope you can find a combination that works well.
 
Krissy, would you post a report on yours? Dishwashing, hand soap or shampoo, etc.

Are you using the pectin, or xanthan gum?
 
i am using the pectin. so far i have it not quite boiling over very low heat for the past 10 mins. i am not really sure when to take it off the heat or when to pour it into a container...
 
Vintageliving said:
HG, I always just do the scalp-wash, unless I've got paint or some such thing in my hair. Hope you can find a combination that works well.

Off Topic Hijack: Even when I do use commercial shampoo I use only a little compared to the globs of suds the ads would have you think necessary. And it goes on the scalp mainly and barely at all down the length. However, lately I've been doing an oddball thing which has worked quite well. Mix baking soda and very warm water till the soda dissolves (2 tbsp soda/2 cups water — more or less because the exact ratio isn't crucial) and pour it over the scalp. Massage in and leave while you perform other showerly duties. Rinse well. Finish with an ACV rinse which is also lightly rinsed out, and you're good to go. It doesn't strip my hair, although every several times I'll use a small bit of commercial 'poo and conditioner instead. Mostly my hair does beautifully with benign neglect.

It amazes me exactly what all you can sucessfully clean with.


Back On Topic: Krissy, I will be interested in what you come up with. My jars of this are like jelly once totally cooled. But it seems like everyone else is having the same experience.
 
pics so far...

ok, i figured since no one has posted pics, i would and then i can ask questions/maybe answer someone else's.
grated soap
dissolved soap in water

almost boil

thick and has kind of a "skin" like when making pudding



i took it off the heat and put it in a bowl to cool... we shall see what happens...
 
regarding the avc rinse, i tried it a few times but it's so annoying to make it when u need to shampoo and then it's pretty COLD not that pleasant. really hard to keep it up everyday any suggestions?

how much *liquid* do u use for a good rinse? i've filled up those gallon bottles of water but always felt it was too much. i tried 1/10 dilution is that too much? what do u do?

can u make a huge batch and store it somewhere, what method do u think is most efficient for using the avc? thanks!
 
blueberrylolli said:
regarding the avc rinse, i tried it a few times but it's so annoying to make it when u need to shampoo and then it's pretty COLD not that pleasant. really hard to keep it up everyday any suggestions?

how much *liquid* do u use for a good rinse? i've filled up those gallon bottles of water but always felt it was too much. i tried 1/10 dilution is that too much? what do u do?

can u make a huge batch and store it somewhere, what method do u think is most efficient for using the avc? thanks!

Put a quart sized plastic container with a few (2-3 max) tablespoons of ACV into it. When you are ready to rinse, fill the container with warm water from your running shower. Rinse with ACV mix. Rinse again briefly with plain warm water.
 
ok when the soap cooled it was like a slimy solid. it lathered beautifully and that was all fine, but felt strange. i think i over cooked it quite a bit. i ended up mixing it with a blender into a foamy mixture that feels like a thick shaving cream only slightly more solid-ish. i love it. from one bar of soap i got 16 oz of a creamed soap. i adore this!!
 
btw where can i buy pectin locally

checked walmart but they got nothing within 100 miles of where i live

i live in fort lee, new jersey. i don't really grocery shop so i don't know what local stores might carry it. any suggestions please?

also can this be substituted by anything else?

btw i found this on how to make pectin (if all else fails)

http://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/Th ... pectin.htm

and citrus unripe fruit peels seem to have a lot of that stuff like lemons and oranges

* Posted by readinglady z8 OR (My Page) on
Mon, Jan 12, 09 at 21:02

Home cooks have been making pectin stock for a long, long time. Basically pectin stock can be made from any high-pectin fruit - apples, quinces, lemons, oranges, even plums I suppose. Apple stock is by far the most common because apples are loaded with natural pectin, they're available over a wide range of climate zones, they're easy to prep and the resulting stock is pretty "neutral." So apple pectin base is a good flavor carrier and can be used in a wide variety of jams and jellies without being obvious.

Citrus pectin has slightly different qualities from apple. There's a difference in texture and the flavor is more pronounced. The difference in texture doesn't mean it's inferior. Manufacturers will choose one over the other (apple v.s. citrus) depending upon what they're making and the "mouthfeel" they're aiming for. The more pronounced flavor of a lemon pectin base means it's most suited for a jam or jelly where you want that lemon.

The majority of pectin in citrus is contained in the white part of the skin — the pith or "albedo" — plus the membranes between the segments and the seeds. So if you really want some super-jelling pectin stock in large quantities, that's what you'll use. But, the pith is also bitter, so there is a tradeoff, which is why some "gourmet" commercial jam-makers settle for less quantity and use only the membranes and seeds.

You can find the formula for citrus pectin if you scroll down the page at the site link; it's an old document from 1931.

I hope this helps. Happy preserving,

Carol

so i'm gonna try to peel a few lemons, save that white stuff, and boil it in a whee bit of water on high heat for a small time and see if i get pectin O.O

anyone else want to try xD
 
Re: pics so far...

krissy said:
ok, i figured since no one has posted pics, i would and then i can ask questions/maybe answer someone else's.
grated soap
dissolved soap in water

almost boil

thick and has kind of a "skin" like when making pudding



i took it off the heat and put it in a bowl to cool... we shall see what happens...
ok this is what i ended up with...

nearly completely solid goo


so i used the mixer and whipped it with about 4 oz of water and got this...


it looks like a dessert of some sort. i love it!
 
Fabulous, Krissy.

Thanks for posting the pics. I would have done, but my camera does not download properly.

That looks like the first batch I made and I think the longer cook definitely has something to do with the end result. I also whipped the living daylights out of mine (even though I did not add any more water) and ended up with a lovely mousse which even after all this time still has the same texture. That is the one I am using as shampoo now, but I also gave some to my brother to use as a shaving cream and he loves it.

I find that when I do not have time to make an actual batch of soap I can get some gratification from cooking up a batch of "liquid" soap ;)
and as you mentioned it is very economical to produce. The only trick is to find enough containers/bottles/jars for all the resulting soap. My last lot went into an empty mineral water bottle :)
 
mine went into a 16 oz container from Coconut Oil. i have so many containers left from soap making,lol. i am thinking of adding some sugar or salt and seeing how that feels in the shower.
i am also going to try this again without accidentally letting it boil! i think that is why i go the slime i ended up with at first.
 
This thread is sooo cool! I have wanted to try liquid soap but have been dreading it too as it looked really complicated. This method looks a lot easier.

Eagerly awaiting your next results (until I get the nerve to try this myself).
 
actually the pectin thing isn't so revolutionary - I read about it a few years ago in one of my books..
I think it was Making Soaps by Paola Romanelli maybe?

It's her Shampoo recipe.. called for 1/2tsp of pectin.

I've done it a few times, even whipping it into shaving cream. good stuff!
 
yeah just the soap/water/pectin.
Here, I'll dig out the book :)

Her recipe says "an indispensable ingredient in the preparation of liquid shampoo is pectin"

4.2oz grated soap
26oz water
1/2 tsp pectin powder

and then she listed the EOs she was using but obviously use whatever you want, or use scented soap gratings. :)

The book says to melt soap in water in a double boiler (I use my crockpot though), add your EOs, then add 1/2tsp pectin and stir until it looks fluid. Fill a bottle with the shampoo, close top, and shake well before use.

I've messed around with it lots of ways (whipping, adding more water, more pectin, etc.) and though the results are always different it's still usually great to use!
 
Well, I still stand by my statement that this is revolutionary to ME ;)

I do not have any books on soapmaking, so I am grateful to Sunkawakan for posting the pectin advice as it has opened up a whole new world for me as far as shampoo making is concerned.

Liquid soap making was something that I had tried, but decided that it was more work than justified the result which was less than satisfactory. I am thrilled with the pectin method and all the different ways it can be applied.

ETA...I will be back home tomorrow after 3 weeks away, so am really looking forward to seeing what has become of my last batch which was made with Xanthan gum rather than pectin.
 

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