It means it won't dissolve in water as quickly.
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MonicaT73
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Ahhh! Gosh, so much to learn!! Thank you so much!
That's a good question, and I put it all into my spreadsheet and was surprised to find that it was really about the same! Just a .03 cents per bar more.
Scratch that, I was looking at the wrong price! It's actually about .24 cents more per bar. That is a bigger difference. Something to think about
Thank you KiwiMoose - you are so helpful! So I tried adjusting the recipe, taking out the sweet almond & sunflower, and replaced them with OO, but it only raised my palmitic & stearic to 12 & 13 for a total of 25. Any suggestions of how I can tweak it to make those numbers higher? Here is the current recipe:No time to explain right now - but the numbers are pretty good
Try RBO or Olive oil to replace one of your other soft oils ( not AVO though) as they will increase your palmitic.
Avocado 5.75oz (17.97%)
Coconut 7.7oz (24.06%)
Cocoa Butter 5.1oz (15.94%)
Castor 3.85oz (12.03%)
Shea 4.8oz (15%)
OO 4.8oz (15%)
Superfat 5%
And it gives me these numbers:
| Lauric | 14 |
| Myristic | 6 |
| Palmitic | 20 |
| Stearic | 5 |
| Ricinoleic | 0 |
| Oleic | 37 |
| Linoleic | 15 |
| Linolenic | 0 |
Your help is so appreciated!
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Hmm - I dunno. I would say increase your shea or cocoa butters but you already have 55% hard fats in there.
Why so much avocado oil? It's quite expensive. It is nice in soap I agree - but I use it at 5%. Have a look in soap calc to see the diff in palmitic between OO, Avocado and RBO - RBO is higher and way cheaper.
Anyway - I think you are probably good to go with your current recipe. Just try it and see what you think.
I'm a soy wax user which adds to the stearic amount in my soap - but I can't remember if you were for or against soy.
Why so much avocado oil? It's quite expensive. It is nice in soap I agree - but I use it at 5%. Have a look in soap calc to see the diff in palmitic between OO, Avocado and RBO - RBO is higher and way cheaper.
Anyway - I think you are probably good to go with your current recipe. Just try it and see what you think.
I'm a soy wax user which adds to the stearic amount in my soap - but I can't remember if you were for or against soy.
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I based this on Kiwi's suggestion. RBO is cheap but you'd probably want the more refined oils if you want a lighter soap. RBO can get a little dark in color.
This looks good! Thanks Arimara!
I have this book and I like it quite a bit. A lot of her recipes use tallow or lard, but there are plenty that don’t. I’m far from an expert and don’t sell anything (yet), but I’ve been happy with her recipes that I’ve used. And they’re not complicated with a hundred different ingredients.
As a bonus, if you’re interested she included a photo gallery of soaps colored with natural ingredients. It’s pretty cool!
Hey @SoapM0m - I found this helpful when starting out: What Fatty Acid Profiles in Soapmaking Are the Most Popular?
penelopejane
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I don't bother with the "numbers" but I think that your soap is probably going to be sticky and soft with that much Castor. I'd keep the castor below 5%. Olive oil is a hard oil that will harden up your soap.
I can't use that much coconut oil. I use less than 10% but generally none at all in soap. High coconut soaps look good in the numbers but they do not last with use. A 100% coconut soap lasts a week in our house.
I also don't use any other oils at less than 10% in a soap because I can't tell the difference.
You might want to look at this recipe which is great as a soap (NOT as a shampoo).
https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/shampoo-bar-thanks-lindy.30946/
But it all comes down to personal preference and how your skin reacts to ingredients. So test away!
So interesting! Thank you KiwiMoose - that was a good read!
MonicaT73
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Thank you so much!
Eva-Victoria
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Hi Victoria, at what % do you superfat your recipe, please? I'd like to try around 30% shea butter in my recipe for super dry skin.
Victoriaaa
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I do 5% super fat with a 33% lye concentration
So I've checked out more on soy wax, and the thread on it that you started a few years ago. Is it crisco??
No - I think that has palm in it.
Search for GW415 (Golden Brands). I assume there will be a number of suppliers over there who have it.
I think Nature’s Garden has it.
Has anyone ever purchased soy wax from Amazon? This one is Brandon's Candles LLC:
https://smile.amazon.com/Natural-So...=p_85:2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&sr=8-2
So KiwiMoose, I finally decided to try out your recipe in my lye calc, but when I did, I did not get the same numbers you did:
Your thoughts are much appreciated!
https://smile.amazon.com/Natural-So...=p_85:2470955011&rnid=2470954011&rps=1&sr=8-2
So KiwiMoose, I finally decided to try out your recipe in my lye calc, but when I did, I did not get the same numbers you did:
# | d+9one | Oil/Fat | % | Pounds | Ounces | Grams |
1 | Soybean, 27.5 hydrogenated | 20 | 0.4 | 6.4 | 181.437 | |
2 | Coconut Oil, 76 deg | 20 | 0.4 | 6.4 | 181.437 | |
3 | Olive Oil | 20 | 0.4 | 6.4 | 181.437 | |
4 | Rice Bran Oil | 20 | 0.4 | 6.4 | 181.437 | |
5 | Shea Butter | 10 | 0.2 | 3.2 | 90.718 | |
6 | Avocado Oil | 5 | 0.1 | 1.6 | 45.359 | |
7 | Castor Oil | 5 | 0.1 | 1.6 | 45.359 | |
| Totals | 100 | 2 | 32 | 907.184 |
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You need to use soybean 100% hydrogenated. 
Interestingly, my Oleic is not as high as your is either. Must be a different calculator .
Interestingly, my Oleic is not as high as your is either. Must be a different calculator .
What website is your calculator?You need to use soybean 100% hydrogenated.
Interestingly, my Oleic is not as high as your is either. Must be a different calculator .
It's this one! From SMF. It's called soap making friend.
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