Help with ZNSC

[Chaiat5]

Hellooo everyone…

So, I have tried but not cracked Zany’s No Slime Castile soap and it is really bugging me. In terms of appearance, they were pretty nice — nothing squishy or runny and firm as well.

BUT: The first batch soaps were just not sudsy at all. I know not to expect lots of bubbles from pure olive soaps, but these barely gave out even a creamy lather.

The second batch was surprisingly a little bubbly, so a little more pleasant to use. Unfortunately, there is a hint of slime. It goes away the more I lather, but it is unmistakably there when I start using the soap. Both soaps were made from pomace and cured for 2 months or so.

I followed the recipe to a T… but I must be doing something wrongly? Are there any … variables? Any advice will be much appreciated.

 

[Ekuzo]

I'm interested. People who tried the recipe say there's no slime and the lather is good, I'm curious if there may be variables and if it still resembles regular OO soap in some cases.

I don't think using pomace would make a difference, their supposed FA profile is almost identical. Let's see what the others have to say

 

[Servant4Christ]

I don't make the Castile version. I use 85 olive, 10 coconut, 5 castor. Mine bubbles fine and is the only recipe I've found (so far) that even my super sensitive face can tolerate after a 2 month cure. I don't use pomace, so maybe that makes a difference.

 

[AliOop]

I don't make the Castile version, either. My Bastille version is 80% OO and 20% CO, PKO or blend thereof, with sorbitol and goat milk powder. While it's not my favorite soap, I find it decent - which is saying a lot, since normally I detest high OO soaps.

If I were going to make the Castile version, I'd either use dual lye or some form of sugar (white sugar, sorbitol, milk powder, etc.) to increase the bubbles. I never use pomace so am not sure if it affects the feel of it.

 

[Chaiat5]

Thank you so much, guys! I think I am retiring my Castile efforts until I gain more experience

So I’ve taken your tips @Servant4Christ and @AliOop and made Bastile soap instead with castor oil, CO and PKO. Felt adventurous and added sugar too!

I used EVOO (couldn’t get regular OO) and boy, WHAT a change! I had only used pomace before and the overly quick trace was a right pain. I may never go back

 

[AliOop]

Yup, that's the main reason I don't use pomace - that quick trace is not fun at all! If you still have some pomace left, try making liquid soap with it. LS traces more slowly than bar soap due to the lower lye concentration, plus KOH being a weaker alkali than NaOH. A nice, basic LS recipe is 33% OO, 33% CO, and 34% castor oil, with 0% SF and 25% lye concentration. It can take 5+ minutes to reach trace/paste stage, so speeding that up is always a good thing.

 

[Chaiat5]

Hehe… my next project

 

[A-Polly]

Perhaps your home water supply could be a variable. It is particularly hard or soft?
(Not that I know what sort of actual chemical difference this makes with sudsing, but I've noticed that my own soaps feel much different when I visit a part of the country with very soft water, vs. my home with at least moderate hardness.)