Green Bean Powder Soap

[amiphant]

I'm not sure if green bean powder is sth popular for cosmetic uses in the western culture, it is commonly used in Taiwan and is highly praised by media as it is cheap, 100% natural and is excellent for acne/oily skin. People usually use green bean powder alone as facial cleanser, or mix it with egg white as facial mask.

As it is summer time, I think it'll be a great idea to add a little bit of green bean powder to my facial soap recipe, even though my skin type is "oily combination". I guess it'll help with my black head problem that the fine green bean powder can gently exfoliate my skin, and I guess it'll be ok for daily use?

To prevent dryness that the green bean powder will cause, I increase the % of Jojoba oil used in the recipe, this is actually my first time to incorporate Jojoba oil in my soap and i hope it'll work out fine~

Jojoba Liquid 25%
Olive Oil 15%
Palm Oil 45%
Coconut Oil 15%

Any comments on the oil combination? :wink:

 

[soapsmurf]

I'm not sure if green bean powder is sth popular for cosmetic uses in the western culture, it is commonly used in Taiwan and is highly praised by media as it is cheap, 100% natural and is excellent for acne/oily skin. People usually use green bean powder alone as facial cleanser, or mix it with egg white as facial mask.

As it is summer time, I think it'll be a great idea to add a little bit of green bean powder to my facial soap recipe, even though my skin type is "oily combination". I guess it'll help with my black head problem that the fine green bean powder can gently exfoliate my skin, and I guess it'll be ok for daily use?

To prevent dryness that the green bean powder will cause, I increase the % of Jojoba oil used in the recipe, this is actually my first time to incorporate Jojoba oil in my soap and i hope it'll work out fine~

Jojoba Liquid 25%
Olive Oil 15%
Palm Oil 45%
Coconut Oil 15%

Any comments on the oil combination? :wink:

I've read of an upper limit on jojoba of 9%, not to exceed 10% of bar composition. More will make the bar too soft and adversely affect your lather. Jojoba is actually a liquid wax, so bear that in mind. Suggest you up the OO content and run your formula through soapcalc. I'd wait for replies.

I do have a question- is that raw mung bean powder you're using? I am assuming it has not been cooked and then dried.

 

[amiphant]

I'm not sure if green bean powder is sth popular for cosmetic uses in the western culture, it is commonly used in Taiwan and is highly praised by media as it is cheap, 100% natural and is excellent for acne/oily skin. People usually use green bean powder alone as facial cleanser, or mix it with egg white as facial mask.

As it is summer time, I think it'll be a great idea to add a little bit of green bean powder to my facial soap recipe, even though my skin type is "oily combination". I guess it'll help with my black head problem that the fine green bean powder can gently exfoliate my skin, and I guess it'll be ok for daily use?

To prevent dryness that the green bean powder will cause, I increase the % of Jojoba oil used in the recipe, this is actually my first time to incorporate Jojoba oil in my soap and i hope it'll work out fine~

Jojoba Liquid 25%
Olive Oil 15%
Palm Oil 45%
Coconut Oil 15%

Any comments on the oil combination? :wink:

I've read of an upper limit on jojoba of 9%, not to exceed 10% of bar composition. More will make the bar too soft and adversely affect your lather. Jojoba is actually a liquid wax, so bear that in mind. Suggest you up the OO content and run your formula through soapcalc. I'd wait for replies.

I do have a question- is that raw mung bean powder you're using? I am assuming it has not been cooked and then dried.

Thanks for your comment, didn't know there's an upper limit for jojoba! i've revised the recipe using 9% of jojoba and replace the rest with OO and it looks ok on soapcal, will try this out sometime this week~

it's supposed to be raw green bean grinded like coffee beans. But I bought the grinded one in Taiwan.

 

[soapsmurf]

I'm not sure if green bean powder is sth popular for cosmetic uses in the western culture, it is commonly used in Taiwan and is highly praised by media as it is cheap, 100% natural and is excellent for acne/oily skin. People usually use green bean powder alone as facial cleanser, or mix it with egg white as facial mask.

As it is summer time, I think it'll be a great idea to add a little bit of green bean powder to my facial soap recipe, even though my skin type is "oily combination". I guess it'll help with my black head problem that the fine green bean powder can gently exfoliate my skin, and I guess it'll be ok for daily use?

To prevent dryness that the green bean powder will cause, I increase the % of Jojoba oil used in the recipe, this is actually my first time to incorporate Jojoba oil in my soap and i hope it'll work out fine~

Jojoba Liquid 25%
Olive Oil 15%
Palm Oil 45%
Coconut Oil 15%

Any comments on the oil combination? :wink:

I've read of an upper limit on jojoba of 9%, not to exceed 10% of bar composition. More will make the bar too soft and adversely affect your lather. Jojoba is actually a liquid wax, so bear that in mind. Suggest you up the OO content and run your formula through soapcalc. I'd wait for replies.

I do have a question- is that raw mung bean powder you're using? I am assuming it has not been cooked and then dried.

Thanks for your comment, didn't know there's an upper limit for jojoba! i've revised the recipe using 9% of jojoba and replace the rest with OO and it looks ok on soapcal, will try this out sometime this week~

it's supposed to be raw green bean grinded like coffee beans. But I bought the grinded one in Taiwan.

Good luck on that recipe. I hope it turns out well for you. I never knew mung beans were used in this way. Thanks for the info. Would love to see how your soap turns out!

 

[amiphant]

I tried the recipe last week and the soap turned out to be too soft even after 5 days of cure...I duno if it's the oil combination (too much "soft oil" in the recipe) or becasue i spilled some soap when I was trying to use my new stick blender.... or because of the 6ml of tea tree EO I added during trace....

would you:

1) wait for a longer cure say 8 weeks, hopfully the soap will be harden later
2) Rebatch it with coconut oil and lye? (I never tried rebatch b4...not quite sure how to do it)
3) make liquid soap by mixing the soap with water and double boil it?

I was so disappointed and I certainly don't want to waste this batch....

 

[carebear]

did you try actually washing with it? how was the lather? was it oily/greasy?

I don't think the 8 weeks will help - the jojoba is simply not going to saponify.

And in my experience, any soap made with sodium hydroxide turns to slime when you try to dilute it into liquid soap. That may not happen with yours since you have so much jojoba, but I imagine it'll be super greasy and not clean well.

Rebatching MIGHT work, but in your case your best bet might be to just incorporate some of your soap into an entirely new batch of soap (grind/grate it up and mix into a new batch with your stickblender when you mix the oils and lye).

 

[amiphant]

I haven't tried the lather yet but I'll check it out tonite~

I actually cut down the jojoba to 9% as suggested by soapsmurf and ran the recipe on soap cal, the numbers looked fine...

I duno what's the real reason causing the failure as there were too many "first times" in this batch, jojoba, 6mL of EO, stick blender...all are new stuff to me... :?

 

[carebear]

could you post your complete recipe, then?
also, did your soap gel? how long ago did you make it?

 

[amiphant]

I made the batch on Jun 13th and this is the recipe i used:

36g jojoba
124g olive oil
160g palm oil
80g coconut oil
green bean powder 20g
tea tree EO ~6ml
NaOH 53.65g
water 132g
coloring

i tried the soap, it first left an oily feeling, but then the oily feeling was gone after rinsing for like a few seconds

i'm not sure if the batch underwent gel stage or not, so i post a picture here... when i cut it, it's soap-like except that it is really really soft....



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[carebear]

Your recipe looks ok, but the batch size is pretty small which means that any small errors in measuring could have a big impact on the end product.

Also, that is a lot of green bean powder, I think = but hard to say since I've not worked with it. Is it more than a tablespoon?

If it didn't gel it can take a few extra days to harden up. Did you zap test it?

 

[soapsmurf]

I tried the recipe last week and the soap turned out to be too soft even after 5 days of cure...I duno if it's the oil combination (too much "soft oil" in the recipe) or becasue i spilled some soap when I was trying to use my new stick blender.... or because of the 6ml of tea tree EO I added during trace....

would you:

1) wait for a longer cure say 8 weeks, hopfully the soap will be harden later
2) Rebatch it with coconut oil and lye? (I never tried rebatch b4...not quite sure how to do it)
3) make liquid soap by mixing the soap with water and double boil it?

I was so disappointed and I certainly don't want to waste this batch....

I'm sorry to hear that your batch hasn't come out exactly as you'd like. From the pic, it certainly looks like soap, so that's a bright spot :wink:
I don't know how the bean powder might have affected your recipe since I've not tried it in soap, but when added to other things, it tends to take up moisture. However, you used the equiv. of 2 Tb of green bean powder in this small batch (~.88lbs), which might have possibly been too much to use with a batch this size. I'd personally be more comfortable using that much with a batch size roughly 3xs yours. However, Taiwan is rather humid, and around this time of year, I'm sure that's particularly true, so I would wait another week to see if the batch hardens any further.

 

[amiphant]

Thanks you Carebear and Soapsmurf~

I've decided to have half batch waited for another month or so, and have the other half added to a slightly modified recipe and bigger batch

600g batch
30% grated soap
jojoba 5%
OO 25%
CO 30%
PO 40%

lye discount 3%
addictive 3%

any comments?

 

[carebear]

yea, make your base batch bigger. again, small errors in a small batch are magnified. I personally never work with under 2# oils. some manage 1# ok, but since you had a problem last time I'd go up a little. myself.

also, bigger batches gel more easily.

either way, I suggest you force your soap to gel if it won't on it's own. you can put on a heating pad (while wrapped) or in a pre-warmed oven (170F and then turned off) or whatever.

 

[amiphant]

I grated some of my old soap into the modified batch, and it worked perfectly with heating pads as suggested~

and those leaving for longer cure, i left them under air con and they harden up quite nicely too.

Thanks again carebear~

 

[soapsmurf]

I grated some of my old soap into the modified batch, and it worked perfectly with heating pads as suggested~

and those leaving for longer cure, i left them under air con and they harden up quite nicely too.

Thanks again carebear~

Glad they worked out for you. Looks like the batch just needed a little more time