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I've been using a sugar serum to increase bubbles in my soaps. I'm still "experimenting" so haven't made a batch of soap much larger than 800g. Finally created something I want to make in a large loaf mold.
Should I be using a water discount for my sugar serum? I haven't noticed any "problems" making smaller loaves. Just thought I'd double check :cool:
 
@ewhitake , I'm interested in responses to your question.

I have been adding sugar to my soaps to increase bubbles. I just add the sugar to whatever water I was going to use and stir it until dissolved BEFORE i add the lye to the water. But, I bought some aloe vera juice a number of months ago that I have not yet tried. I haven't opened the bottle so I don't even have an idea of the consistency. I think this aloe vera juice will be similar to your sugar serum?? Or maybe I'd even use more of it? I'm thinking that I need to account for this extra liquid. Hopefully, some experienced soaps can give us guidance on this 🙏
 
Are you adding sugar syrup as a percentage of the total fat weight? If so, the proportion of the sugar syrup to fat is constant regardless of the batch size.

If you're adding syrup as a fixed amount, that's another story.

Whether you should be adjusting the water weight to account for the water in the syrup is a somewhat different question. I probably would make that adjustment, but others won't.
 
I use 4 Tablespoons sugar syrup in my soap batches. The fact that I have already lowered my liquid ( just enough to dissolve my lye) the liquid of my sugar syrup hasn't affected my outcome.
 
Are you adding sugar syrup as a percentage of the total fat weight? If so, the proportion of the sugar syrup to fat is constant regardless of the batch size.

If you're adding syrup as a fixed amount, that's another story.

Whether you should be adjusting the water weight to account for the water in the syrup is a somewhat different question. I probably would make that adjustment, but others won't.
I'm adding the syrup as a percentage of total batch weight. Maybe I should change it to percentage of oil weight?
 
Okay. What exactly is "sugar syrup"? Is this something you buy already made? Or is this something you make by adding sugar to water?

It's also called simple syrup. You make it yourself exactly as you said.

edit: You don't need to use sugar syrup to make soap -- just dissolve the sugar in water or water-based liquid. Make sure the sugar is fully dissolved before adding the lye. Then there's no need to worry about the water added by using sugar syrup.

But this is purely a preference thing -- the soap maker gets to choose which works best for them.

I'm adding the syrup as a percentage of total batch weight. Maybe I should change it to percentage of oil weight?

The basis (fat weight vs batch weight) isn't super critical, as long as you use one or the other consistently. See below for why people usually use fat weight for soap making, however, rather than batch weight.

I really wanted to know if you're using a percentage to get the weight of syrup or if you're adding an absolute weight so I could give you an intelligent answer. Many soap makers struggle with math, and avoid percentages like the plague, so I never assume how "mathy" a person is.

Most soap makers who are comfortable using percentages will use the fat weight as the basis, rather than total batch weight.

Batch weight changes as soap cures and loses water due to evaporation. It also changes from recipe to recipe if you change the lye concentration or add/subtract other additives. Fat weight remains constant. So if you want a consistent basis, fat weight is a better choice versus batch weight.

It's like using bakers percentages" when working with a bread recipe -- the amount of water and salt and yeast are based on the flour weight, not on the total weight.
 
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It's also called simple syrup. You make it yourself exactly as you said.

edit: You don't need to use sugar syrup to make soap -- just dissolve the sugar in water or water-based liquid. Make sure the sugar is fully dissolved before adding the lye. Then there's no need to worry about the water added by using sugar syrup.
@DeeAnna, thank you! At first, I assumed that a sugar syrup was just a soaper premixing their water and sugar. Then, it occurred to me that people buy "simple syrup" to make cocktails. So, then I started thinking that maybe that's what everyone was talking about.

I use sugar in my soap just as you described in your edit. (except that I think I've switched to sortibol. I add it to the water and stir it until is completely dissolved before I add the lye to the water. This is pretty easy since no extra water is used for this. Now that you've clarified, I can sit back down and relax again :)
 

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