Pine Tar Batch # 3 - Simply Amazing!FANTASTIC UPDATE!

[Dennis]

the soap looks brilliant Dennis!!! Being completely ignorant of pine tar let alone pine tar soap can you tell me it's 'benefits'? Where do you fin the pine tar? is it difficult to work with?...

Using a stick blender it comes to trace really fast. I mean really fast. Higher the percentage, faster to trace it seems. I've made 3 batches at 2,4 and 10% and have decided one more attempt at 20% is in order. Unfortunately for me, that means having to line the mold again and that could take a while. It is a sticky, gummy, smelly, mess in the can and a little gets everywhere if you're not careful. Pine tar, not the liner.
Benefits? Well, as soap in the shower it smells great to me. Other than that I make no claims but others have said that it gives relief for psoriasis and eczema. I don't suffer with those afflictions so cannot speak to them.

Is this pine tar soap for humans? I only ask because you used the pine tar product for horses. Thanks.

No, it clearly states on the can, "A natural antiseptic germicidal treatment for use on hooves. NOT FOR HUMAN USE."
Also, "DANGER - HARMFUL OR FATAL IF SWALLOWED KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN" The warnings are printed in a most appealing (to me) purple. The front label, well, here's a bigger pic:

It's available at feed stores or any store with an equine section. I paid $8.99 for the 32oz tin.
If you really want to ingest, this should make it easier:
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Watch it even if you don't; she has a great voice.

I love the colour you achieved. It would never, ever have occurred to me to try colouring it! Nicely done.

And I see that Hazel has you very well trained

The color didn't turn out as the first picture made me think it would. It has made me think of trying again using a more disciplined :roll: approach.
Not sure about that. But it could happen. The more disciplined approach I mean. My usual method is to jump in quick, try something, then when a mess is achieved step back and give a second thought to develop a more rational approach. Leaving out the first part takes away the adventure and lots of fun for me. That's why this is not a business for me. Locals would be breaking out the torches and pitchforks!

Your pine tar shampoo sounds interesting. Liquid or bar? I would think bar, but my knowledge is limited. (Quiet Hazel!)

Trained? By Hazel? Anyone with a arithmetic dog can't be all bad. And I love her meth lab!
SQUIRREL!!
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What? I mean, "Yes ma'am?"
Yes, ma'am, right away.
Thank you ma'am.
No ma'am.

Opened my blog up yesterday and looked at it for a while. Giving consideration to it. Mysterious, far far eastern sometimes soaping assistant, lovely wife and mother of my children is encouraging it. Hmmm.

 

[AngelMomma]

Opened my blog up yesterday and looked at it for a while. Giving consideration to it. Mysterious, far far eastern sometimes soaping assistant, lovely wife and mother of my children is encouraging it. Hmmm.[/quote]


Seems to me that Mysterious is wise to encourage your blogging........you seem to be just as entertaining as my Superman. I bring him along when I can, to Dr appointments etc........no boredom when he is around!

 

[Hazel]

Squirrel!!!

It's good to know I'm not the only one distracted by squirrels.

 

[Lindy]

I love that!!!

Pine Tar Shampoo - bar shampoo... top secret, under cover, must kill you if I tell you anything more about it.... so you get to live

Are you adding any fragrance or essential oils to it?

 

[brandnew]

Dennis
do you just add the decided percentage to any soap recipe? or are there any oils that don't 'agree' with the pine tar...thanks for the warning about the messiness as I can be very accident prone!!! :wink:

 

[Dennis]

I love that!!!

Pine Tar Shampoo - bar shampoo... top secret, under cover, must kill you if I tell you anything more about it.... so you get to live

Are you adding any fragrance or essential oils to it?

Top secret, under cover, must kill you if I tell you anything more about it...so you get to live.

Not really. I added frankinmyrrh (easier than frankincense and myrrh) from Candle Science in the first two batches. Really, really wonderful fragrance along with the pine tar. Can't tell if it overcame the pine tar or blended with it but it was wonderful.

Dennis
do you just add the decided percentage to any soap recipe? or are there any oils that don't 'agree' with the pine tar...thanks for the warning about the messiness as I can be very accident prone!!! :wink:

Beats me. I generally plunder around soapcalc and enter about 50 different values until all of the characteristics are somewhat in a range that is acceptable. The pine tar is added in to soapcalc for lye calculation but it has no fa, so the % pine tar is part of the total 100% of oils. INS usually ends up anywhere from 120 to 150. I've only played with the pine tar a few times so am just getting familiar with it. All of the pine tar soap has been pretty soft when cut but like most it is better in a couple of days. I'll give it at least 4-6 weeks before trying it out. It's not like I'm running low on soap. :wink:
In #1 I used castor, coconut, lard, palm, and olive. The pine tar was at 4%.
#2 was with babassu, shea butter, castor, coconut, olive and pine tar was at 2%.
#3 was with castor, coconut, palm, olive and pine tar at 10%.
Can't wait to try them and see what comes of all that.
#4 batch will be at 20% and I'll use a fragrance oil to see how it works at the high percentage of pine tar. Problem is no frankinmyrrh left. I have some Arabian Spice and Bay Rum I've used before so that might be what goes in. At least I'll know what it's like in non pine tar. Not so for frankinmyrrh as I had never used it before. I might go with olive mostly and a little coconut, and less water discount since the 20% traces so quickly, or so I'm told. 20% will be another new experience. Probably should have used same recipe for all percentages of pine tar for comparison's sake, but there's that discipline thing and this is for fun, not selling. Heck, after giving away a few bars I'll still have enough to last a long long time. :roll:

My turn. Has anyone tried 30% or more pine tar? If so, how did it turn out?

 

[siobhan1011]

Soggy Moggy tee hee,
Sorry couldn't resist.

 

[funkymomma]

Soaping 101 did a video on her pine tar soap and I have made it 3 times. She uses 18% pine tar ppo. I can't imagine a fragrance with this as the pine tar is so stinky. I would think the pine tar would overpower anything you add to it.

 

[tyerod]

That is the same brand pine tar I have had sitting in my kitchen waiting to be turned to soap. I have not been looking forward to working with the sticky mess that is in the can I will soon to be trying a 10% batch. My SIL has psoriasis so I will be using her as a tester. I should probably let her know.

 

[paillo]

Where oh where are you Dennis? We miss you! I don't know how I missed this thread, but have laughed all the way through it and am ITCHING to hear how the 20 percent batch came out! Well, maybe not exactly itching, that might imply I NEED it

 

[Smee]

Well, now, Paillo, it just so happens that I have an almost-cured batch of 20% pine tar,
should you need something for that itch
I shaved off a chunk the other day to sample, and although it feels very nice, it
is still rather soft and has distinctly brown lather. Not DARK brown, but not white, either.
I don't think I would do 20% again - maybe stick to 15% - unless dh decides he
prefers this. It's lard, olive, coconut, and almond oils along with the pine tar.

A note of warning for everyone, the warmer you heat the tar, the easier it is to pour,
BUT - the faster it traces, too. And I do mean FAST! I hand-stir it in at the end,
after I've gotten to a light trace with everything else.

 

[Lindy]

When I'm making Pine Tar soaps as well as shampoo, I stick to 5%. Like lanolin less is more and it is really easy to go overboard with them. I use essential oils with them and people are always amazed at how well they work and that they don't stink....

 

[Smee]

I think you've just convinced me to rebatch half of this pine tar with a basic
olive/coconut/palm recipe, Lindy. That would cut the pine tar down to 10%
or thereabouts, which is what I had used before. I did the 20% at dh's reqest,
and it's simply too too much. Yeah, think I will, just to see which he prefers...

Thanks for talking me into it, Lindy!

 

[Lindy]

Well, I don't know many people who like rebatching so I think I'm ducking for cover.... :wtf:

 

[Smee]

Neither do I , Lindy, so I guess I shouldn't call this a rebatch.
I'm shredding and partially melting bars of a couple different soaps
and smashing it all into a small mold to harden. More of a
rehash mash than a rebatch I guess. It's what I do with leftovers
and odds 'n ends.
update - here they are:

 

[funkymomma]

My first pine tar batch is ready and I have two more almost ready. The ingredients are Olive oil, coconut oil, pine tar, cocoa butter, castor oil. The new batches I subbed out the cocoa butter for shea butter as I didn't have enough. According to the soap calc the qualities are:

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[FONT=Arial, serif]Conditioning 51[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, serif]Creamy 27[/FONT][FONT=Arial, serif]​

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[FONT=Arial, serif]Iodine 50[/FONT]​

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[AngelMomma]

Neither do I , Lindy, so I guess I shouldn't call this a rebatch.
I'm shredding and partially melting bars of a couple different soaps
and smashing it all into a small mold to harden. More of a
rehash mash than a rebatch I guess. It's what I do with leftovers
and odds 'n ends.
update - here they are:

Smee, that look really cool!

 

[tyerod]

I made my first pine tar batch yesterday. Used 10% along with cocnut, olive, castor, alomond oil and lard. It traced very quick and I ended up spooning glops of it into my PVC mold. I did not have exact temps but the lye solution was prob cool to room temp and the oils would possibly been slightly elevated. I plan on unmolding after work today. I'll post results with a more specific recipe.

 

[Smee]

AngelMomma, thank you! Now that they're trimmed up they do look kinda cool.
You'd think I made them intentionally to look like this, even :wink:

OverUnder, yup. Pine Tar traces THAT FAST for me, too.
"Glopping Spoonfuls" HA! I think I'll steal that phrase from you.
Anxious to see how your batch turns out. Post pics if you can!

 

[Lindy]

Smee those are amazing! I love them! Nicely done....