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We have orders (military) to move across the US from GA to WA. We have lived in GA for 11 yrs and I have accumulated a lot of soapy stuff in that time. Has any one done a big move and what if any advice do you have?

The movers will be packing and moving some of our stuff, I don't know too much about the specifics of what they will or wont pack. I know I don't want them messing with my oils, so I will be needing to tape and bubble wrap all of the EO and FO bottles. What about the soaps I already made, and the raw oils I use, advice on packing those??? I thought it would be easier to just make a bunch of soap logs to pack and ship rather than bottles of oils, but hubby didn't think so :confused: TIA!
 
Here is my experience from moving from one coast to another:

The move was paid for by a company that sent packers/movers to do it all.

Only two items were damaged - a book case from Target, and a doll house.

But, when it came to the small stuff - like packing the toiletries left in the bathroom, spices, packaged foods, small items from desks and such, they were simply dumped willy nilly into boxes. Yes, entire boxes filled with batteries, pens, notepad (paper ones, not electronic), paper clips, combs brushes....etc. And...bathroom stuff was mixed with bedroom stuff, etc.

They will NOT transport opened containers. I had oil paint supplies that could not fly on the plane with me; that the packers would not pack. The oil paints themselves made it, but not cleaning oils, liquid white, etc. Some the opened items I wrapped and packed myself in a sealed box were not inspected and made it through the move. Others were opened and disposed of. Guess it just depends on the particular mover and how well they pay attention to their job.

Funny thing is, when it came to a box of baking soda....they taped it and did ship that! Maybe it was deemed innocuous enough.

Maybe you should call a couple of moving companies and ask how they would handle the situation?

Also, consider how long those supplies would be stored - which would probably be a warehouse without climate control. That would affect the quality of the oils and eo's and fo's.

I suggest taking the most important items you have (soaping or not) and packing those yourself (family memorabilia, soap records, financial records).

I hope you and your family will be safe and happy in your new home, best of luck to you.:)
 
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IDK about the soap logs - do you really want to try to squeeze in a ton of soap making while packing for a move?

Depending on what it is, I would see if I could sell bulky stuff on Craigslist and then order again when I was in my new home. For example, I would definetly try to pack my FOs and EOs, and my nicer oils and butters, but maybe not my 5 gallon bucket of coconut oil. And I think you may actually need a permit to transport the lye.
 
It package all the supplies & oils/FO/EO myself and see if they would move it. If not, do you have someplace in WA you could have it shipped to so its waiting for you? What part of WA will you be in? I'm about 1 hour from Spokane.
 
Pack those things yourself and label packed by owner. It should be ok.
 
We will be in Silverdale, and I do have a friend about 30 minutes from where we plan to live that has already offered to hold anything I ship out to her.

We'll be driving out there, probably a 10 day road trip, visit family and a little sight seeing since we wont be seeing most of those people or places again for the next 5 years. So the plan is to wrap and take whatever the movers will not via a uhaul hitch attached to our SUV. I don't think our stuff will be in storage long if at all, but if it is it wont be for long.

I cant imagine opening a box of stuff just randomly dumped in, but I'm sure it will happen especially with junk drawers. I am having serious issues coming to terms with people coming into my house touching my stuff, if given the option I'd pack everything except the furniture myself :shifty:
 
I don't know if the military uses their own movers, here is the little bit I know about professional movers (from my friend moving cross-country, and my parents moving 50 miles). They will not take chemicals. The chemicals I know were refused were: a can of insect repellant, paint & wood stain (opened and unopened), paint stripper and the like.

I feel like the rules are going to extend to your FOs and EOs, IF YOU TELL THEM. My parents were going to put the paint chemicals in the dumpster, which upset me because it's hazardous household waste. So, I wrapped and boxed the stuff and put some books on top and labeled the boxes "Books." No one opened those boxes, but from the comments above it seems like in other situations boxes ARE opened. That risk, combined with the method/duration of storage, makes me think it would be better for you to send the FOs and EOs to your friend's house, via ground transportation (since most are considered hazardous for air transport).

For lye I think I would do the same thing, ship it ahead of time. If I wanted to be sneaky and have the movers move it, I think it would be more work; I'd put a twist-tied bag around each container (moisture prevention and spill control), wrap each container in bubble wrap, line a box with a trash bag, pack them in a box with packing peanuts, then into another box lined with packing peanuts. This is more than the lye shippers do to send stuff to us, but if I were going to pretend to the moving company that they're not shipping hazardous materials, I'd better make sure nothing spills anywhere!

How much do you have in terms of base oils? If the company is fine with moving the stuff (they may not transport food either, since it could create a pest problem, and I don't think a box of liquid oil can be made to feel like a box of books! But solid oils could), I'd just wrap and box the stuff up. If it's a big bucket I'd find a big box and some big bubblewrap (or those rectangular air pockets like Amazon uses) plus use a trash bag to contain any spillage. If it may sit unused for months, perhaps research using some rosemary oleoresin extract or some mixed tocopherols to prevent randicity.

OK now that I've thought all that through, I now think for the base oils and maybe lye it's a good idea to see first if you can find a local buyer as someone above suggested--you have plenty of other stuff to pack, I think. Even losing a little money on it makes up for the hassle of packing it for shipping (and the cost of packing supplies). If you're not moving for months you could perhaps turn your oils into soap, which the movers would move, but soaping is supposed to be fun, I don't think it would be fun to rush and do it while your packing and decluttering will be taking so much time.

Once you get to WA, Lotioncrafter is not far away, in the San Juan Islands (go to those islands, they're beautiful!) and Liberty Naturals is nearby in Oregon, for EOs and other stuff.

I lived in Tacoma for 2 years, and I'd love to live in that area/climate again. I LOVED the rainforests, especially in the autumn, they smelled so good. However, I had a serious winter depression my first winter, it IS dark and rainy. It's a much milder climate than where I grew up and I liked the comparative warmth, but I still got the sads. So, since you're moving from Georgia and are going to think it's cold as well as dark and rainy, I am saying to you now, I think you should buy a SAD lamp well ahead of time, and start using it before you feel depressed!

Hey, what other advice can I hurl at you? :) If you're in the military you are probably great at packing? If not, please remember to label the side of the box, not the top, 'cause they get stacked you know. Office supply stores sell clear tape in bulk packs for a good price. That and a tape gun are a great combo! Oh, and the "last bits of stuff" are going to take SO LONG to pack. Whatever it is that you're packing yourself, once you think you're almost done, you're about 60% there. So if you have to drive somewhere on a particular day, try to manage your time so both of you are not staying up all night finishing packing.
 
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Wow soap rat, lots of info! I already suffer from depression and anxiety, low Vit D levels, so I KNOW it will be a struggle for me over there personally. We have never moved before, and it is quite a change for us after being close to friends and family for the past 11 yrs. But there is a reason for everything, where my husband goes we go so trying to make most of it. I do look forward to the cooler climate and scenic surroundings though!

From what I hear the military gives us x amount of money and we hire our own movers. I still have a few batches of soaps I want to make this month, so I will do that and then start packing things up to avoid temptation and not leave things for the last minute. I do have a friend that also makes soap (HP) so I will talk to her and see if she would like to buy any of my stuff, things like lye and maybe some base & fragrance oils so less to bring. We're gonna definitely need to get a small uhaul though, there are just a lot of things we have that probably wont ship or that we don't want them to ship like our wedding china. Don't want to risk some things breaking on the way.

Just thinking about it makes me tired!
 
Would love to hear how this goes and what you end up doing. We are also in GA with the military (I am from here) and my husband will either be reenlisting or getting out in October - still waiting on some info. Either we will probably be moving and I'm nervous about my stuff for the business. I obviously don't want that out of pocket for very long- I would probably include that with the items we take ourselves. I've heard too many horror stories about military families not getting their furniture for weeks after they move- don't think I'm willing to risk it.
 
That's great that you already know another soaper who may be interested. If you have bought your FOs from several different companies, as many of us do, maybe hold on to all the ones you know you love, since the S&H for replacing just a couple of bottles from each company may add up to a lot. Replacing base oils is more one-stop shopping! Oh, I just remembered, Brambleberry is near there too, isn't it?

I'm sorry you're going to end up so far from friends and family. I hope they will make it out to visit, it really is such a beautiful part of the country. Or you can all meet up at Mt Rushmore or the Badlands, or Yellowstone....

I'm not sure that any other rental company offers the little trailers, but U-haul is the bottom of the barrel in terms of rental quality/maintenance. If they're who you have to use, just bear in mind that you may have equipment failure on your journey, and keep plenty of water and snacks with you if you end up waiting for roadside assistance. I don't want to scare you or depress you, "forewarned is forearmed." I used Penske for tiny trucks a time or two and they were excellent.
 
I don't know how much soaping supplies (oils, lye and EO/FO) but I think all else other than that but still soaping related can be boxed and shipped, can't it? Then can't you take the actually supplies with you personally, in your car or in a privately rented trailer and then have the shippers ship the thinks like buckets, moulds, blender, spoons and so on?

This could work at least for the EOs and FOs which would be harder to replace (if you can't get them in a box in a car, how many do you have?!?!?!) and then your friend might well give you a pro-rata price for your oils/fats and lye so that you don't actually lose much money other than the shipping costs (if any, if you can buy it again locally) and all the stress is gone.
 
I don't know if the military uses their own movers, here is the little bit I know about professional movers (from my friend moving cross-country, and my parents moving 50 miles). They will not take chemicals. The chemicals I know were refused were: a can of insect repellant, paint & wood stain (opened and unopened), paint stripper and the like.

I feel like the rules are going to extend to your FOs and EOs, IF YOU TELL THEM. My parents were going to put the paint chemicals in the dumpster, which upset me because it's hazardous household waste. So, I wrapped and boxed the stuff and put some books on top and labeled the boxes "Books." No one opened those boxes, but from the comments above it seems like in other situations boxes ARE opened. That risk, combined with the method/duration of storage, makes me think it would be better for you to send the FOs and EOs to your friend's house, via ground transportation (since most are considered hazardous for air transport).

For lye I think I would do the same thing, ship it ahead of time. If I wanted to be sneaky and have the movers move it, I think it would be more work; I'd put a twist-tied bag around each container (moisture prevention and spill control), wrap each container in bubble wrap, line a box with a trash bag, pack them in a box with packing peanuts, then into another box lined with packing peanuts. This is more than the lye shippers do to send stuff to us, but if I were going to pretend to the moving company that they're not shipping hazardous materials, I'd better make sure nothing spills anywhere!

How much do you have in terms of base oils? If the company is fine with moving the stuff (they may not transport food either, since it could create a pest problem, and I don't think a box of liquid oil can be made to feel like a box of books! But solid oils could), I'd just wrap and box the stuff up. If it's a big bucket I'd find a big box and some big bubblewrap (or those rectangular air pockets like Amazon uses) plus use a trash bag to contain any spillage. If it may sit unused for months, perhaps research using some rosemary oleoresin extract or some mixed tocopherols to prevent randicity.

OK now that I've thought all that through, I now think for the base oils and maybe lye it's a good idea to see first if you can find a local buyer as someone above suggested--you have plenty of other stuff to pack, I think. Even losing a little money on it makes up for the hassle of packing it for shipping (and the cost of packing supplies). If you're not moving for months you could perhaps turn your oils into soap, which the movers would move, but soaping is supposed to be fun, I don't think it would be fun to rush and do it while your packing and decluttering will be taking so much time.

Once you get to WA, Lotioncrafter is not far away, in the San Juan Islands (go to those islands, they're beautiful!) and Liberty Naturals is nearby in Oregon, for EOs and other stuff.

I lived in Tacoma for 2 years, and I'd love to live in that area/climate again. I LOVED the rainforests, especially in the autumn, they smelled so good. However, I had a serious winter depression my first winter, it IS dark and rainy. It's a much milder climate than where I grew up and I liked the comparative warmth moving from johannesburg to cape town, but I still got the sads. So, since you're moving from Georgia and are going to think it's cold as well as dark and rainy, I am saying to you now, I think you should buy a SAD lamp well ahead of time, and start using it before you feel depressed!

Hey, what other advice can I hurl at you? :) If you're in the military you are probably great at packing? If not, please remember to label the side of the box, not the top, 'cause they get stacked you know. Office supply stores sell clear tape in bulk packs for a good price. That and a tape gun are a great combo! Oh, and the "last bits of stuff" are going to take SO LONG to pack. Whatever it is that you're packing yourself, once you think you're almost done, you're about 60% there. So if you have to drive somewhere on a particular day, try to manage your time so both of you are not staying up all night finishing packing.
Any experiences with moving companies packing/moving your BGE? My moving company said they will have a third party build a crate for it. I am curious how this will work and how they will protect the internal components. Mine model is a large. I'll post pics to show what they do.

BTW, moving from Central Illinois back to Georgia after 14 years. Very much looking forward to several more months of comfortable grilling weather.
 
This person hasn't been here in 6 yrs, so probably won't see your quoted post to them.

Any experiences with moving companies packing/moving your BGE? My moving company said they will have a third party build a crate for it. I am curious how this will work and how they will protect the internal components. Mine model is a large. I'll post pics to show what they do.

BTW, moving from Central Illinois back to Georgia after 14 years. Very much looking forward to several more months of comfortable grilling weather.
 
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