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Hina Charania

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Hello,

Would it be safe to do CP soap while pregnant? As in would the lye fumes be a problem?

Cheers
 
I soaped pregnant but not as much when I wasn't.
You definitely need to wear a good mask and gloves whenever soaping but especially then. Other than that, I didn't have a problem.
 
I would reiterate what has already been said about using safety equipment...especially a mask. Make sure you have one that is rated for fumes (just ask the salesperson...I can't remember the rating) and not just small particles (like saw dust). I don't know about you, but with both of my pregnancies I was super sensitive to smells...so just be careful, and maybe only soap when someone else is home with you in case you don't feel well. Good luck with your soap and your pregnancy :)
 
The regulations may be different in other countries, but in the US, there are actually occupational safety and health laws concerning the usage of a respirator. The "real" respirators rated for fumes require medical evaluation and fit testing. The reason why medical evaluations are done because unless you are using powered or supplied air (the outfit cost about US$500 and up), wearing a respirator makes it more difficult to breathe because you have to literally "suck through the filters". You will end up with less air per breath and your lungs will have to work harder. Fit testing ensures that there are no gaps and openings between the respirator and your face, which would negate the purpose of wearing a mask.

Wearing respirators is part of my job requirement and I have to get a full physical (part of that is also to make sure that I am not exposed to too much heavy metals/toxins) once a year, a fit test once a year or anytime I gain or lose more than 10% of my body weight or have any dental work done.

If you think I am making this up, scroll down to 1910.134(e):
http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp ... =standards

Now, that is not to say people cannot just go to a hardware store and get one and slap it on. If so, please limit the time of wearing the respirator to an absolute minimal. Stir your lye in the water, put it away, and take off the respirator. That also goes without saying if you feel light-headed or short of breath, stop what you are doing, walk away, take off the respirator and go outside for some fresh air.

Another thing I routinely do to minimize fumes is use half water, half ice in making up the solution. If the formula calls for 400 g/ml water, weight out approximately 200g of ice, the rest in water. Since you keep the temperature lower, there will be less fume.
 
Wow...I don't think I was being THAT specific...I just meant not to get the cheap-o masks that you could basically wear to mow the lawn. Like I said, I don't know the ratings, but I know there are better ones than "paint masks" that filter out more than just dirt "particles". Didn't realize respirators are the only ones used to filter (?) out fumes. I will take your word for it, as it usually isn't an issue to need such a heavy duty mask. I just thought extra precautions were in order for a pregnant soaper. I have a mask from Home Depot...I think around $8. It isn't a "lab mask", but it does the trick. Well, I haven't fainted from the fumes yet, anyway. :lol:
However, when I was pregnant, I would probably have preferred a HazMat suit... :shock:
 
I agree the EO's need to be watched. As for lye. The biggest danger is if you are inhaling it to any large degree as the fumes can burn your esophagus as well as the upper respiratory track. To avoid this you simply have to make sure you mask filtration is deep enough to handle it. There are a lot of good masks out there and are not hard to order. Take common sense precautions which includes mixing lye in a well ventilated room. Our ancestors made soap pregnant or not and didn't have these precautions. They lived and so did their children by using common sense.
 
OMG!!!!

I am over whelmed by all the responses.

Thanks a bunch for all ur advice and help. I love this forum!!!!

Cheers
HC
 
FOs should be used with caution too. I find aromachemicals (regardless of from where they are derived) to be more of an issue than lye fumes, whether one is pregnant or not.
 
judymoody said:
FOs should be used with caution too. I find aromachemicals (regardless of from where they are derived) to be more of an issue than lye fumes, whether one is pregnant or not.
Most definitely!
 
There is a continuum of thoughts/feelings on this, as is common. We'll probably never know who is "right," if, indeed, there is a "right." My sister is of the "don't worry about it school," and she has probably made well over 10,000 bars with no precautions and has experienced no problems. I am on the other end of the spectrum. I watched her make one batch. When she opened the lid to the lye bucket, I RAN to the other side of the room. As she worked, I had to leave the very large room. My thoughts: if you can smell it, it's particulate. If it's particulate, it will get into your lungs... and I know lots of stuff is always entering my lungs... but lye... ya know... it just doesn't SMELL like it belongs there. It is one of the main reasons I decided to go with M&P. (And, one fine day, science will find out that the fumes from some M&P ingredient are worse than lye.......)
 
Everything you want to know about lye (and probably some you don't): :D

http://oehha.ca.gov/public_info/pdf/TSD ... 8%2703.pdf

And I do agree with you that everyone has a different level of sensitivity to certain things. I received some FO as a free sample and soaped with it. While I hated the smell, it did not make me sick. On the other hand, BF's eyes watered and nose got stuffed up and sneezed continuously whenever he was within 5 feet of the curing soap. Finally got rid of that soap.
 
EOs, yes i agree a 100%..... need to be very very careful with those pregnant or not........

I seem to have trouble with non-soapy smells like garlic. I ve developed a mutant sense of smell to date, but it has not been that big of a problem per say.....

Thanks for the tips. I might get myself and hubby down to home depot to check out the masks there.......

Cheers to all
HC :lol:
 
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