It seems the cost of olive oil is getting higher and higher every time I purchase it. I use a lot of hard oils and anywhere between 30% to 40% olive oil in most of my formulas. I would like to know if using high oleic safflower oil would be a good substitute for the olive oil I am now using.
Is there a good substitute oil for olive oil
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BrewerGeorge
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I've completely replaced olive with HO safflower.
Yep, HO safflower or HO sunflower. Whichever is cheaper and easier to find, although I'll get the sunflower if it's a toss-up because sunflower oil is increasingly being produced in the Midwestern US and I want to buy as local as I can. Rice bran oil is another, but after comparing it to HO sun or HO saff, I find it's a distant third choice for me.
Kamahido
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Rice Bran Oil is another alternative to Olive Oil.
I've also switched to HO safflower with great results.
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I like high oleic rice bran oil. I get mine from Riceland.
dixiedragon
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I've gone from 30% olive to 10 olive, 10 ricebran and 10 HO sunflower.
Thank you all. You input is helping me to take the leap. I am definitely going to drastically decrease or eliminate olive oil in future formulas and use HO Safflower oil. I saw it this week at Gordon's Food Supplier for a fraction of what I pay now god Olive Oil. I was getting OO at BJ's for a decent price but it too is has become just too costly. Again, thanks much.
This is very interesting! How do you know it's HO? Is that what the grocery stores carry? I'm in Canada so that's probably going to make a difference. Also how would rancidity between the OO & HO sun or saff compare?
How do you know? The quick way to tell is to check the label to see if it actually says "high oleic" on the label or something like "good for frying." Many of the HO oils try to make this point clear to consumers on their labels, since they need to differentiate themselves from the normal high linoleic versions which aren't good for frying and don't last as long without refrigeration. Here's a more complicated explanation of how to tell the difference: https://classicbells.com/soap/highOleic.html
Is it in grocery stores? Yes, very much so. You might not find safflower (of any flavor) quite as easily as sunflower, but you can certainly find HO sunflower in most good grocery stores. Even Walmart.
The shelf life of any high oleic oil is going to be reasonably comparable to olive oil, but also check the % of polyunsaturated fats on the nutrition label. The higher the % of polyunsaturated (aka linoleic and linolenic acids) the shorter the shelf life.
BrewerGeorge
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I use LouAna safflower from Walmart. It's high oleic.
This may be part of the reason for the price increase: https://www.nature.com/news/italy-rebuked-for-failure-to-prevent-olive-tree-tragedy-1.22110
Very sad.
Thank you DeeAnna. I was at our local grocery store last night and I did see both. The Sunflower said mid-oleic and was in a 3 litre jug. The safflower said high oleic but was only 946 mls. so would be more expensive. I will check Walmart and other grocery stores. Thanks for the great idea. I've been considering how to sub oo.
NsMar42111
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Add me to the rice bran oil and sunflower oil group....
I’ve been using a lot of HO Sunflower and loving it.
bumbleklutz
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I like the rice bran oil from Riceland as a substitute for olive oil. I know that others have had great luck with HO sunflower or HO safflower. I haven't used the HO safflower, but unfortunately I haven't had the best results with the HO sunflower.
I love the HO sunflower for liquid soaps, but I find it makes a far softer bar of soap than the olive oil YMMV, however.
On the other hand, I've had great results by reducing my olive oil by 2/3 and replacing it with rice bran oil. The biggest change that I've noticed is that the soap requires a slight bit more work to achieve the same amount of lather in the shower.
I love the HO sunflower for liquid soaps, but I find it makes a far softer bar of soap than the olive oil YMMV, however.
On the other hand, I've had great results by reducing my olive oil by 2/3 and replacing it with rice bran oil. The biggest change that I've noticed is that the soap requires a slight bit more work to achieve the same amount of lather in the shower.
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