100% Coconut 20% SF Soap

[ChrissyB]

Well, I made this soap about 6 weeks ago.
I did an unscented batch, and I did a batch with some charcoal and tea tree oil for DS, he is suffering with teenage acne.
When I first tried this soap after I made it I wasn't very impressed.
Boy was I wrong.
It bubbles and lathers like crazy, and because of the 20% SF it is not at all drying. I love it.
It was so easy to make, only one oil to measure out.
Next time I do it I am going to use coconut cream for some of the liquid.

Any one else like their 100% Coconut soap?

 

[Lindy]

Chrissy I've made them with a 30% SF & 20% SF - my preference is the 20% and I really do love this soap.

 

[IrishLass]

I do all kinds of variations of this soap and I love all of them. My favorite variation of it lately is 70% CO/30% Mango butter with a 15% superfat.

IrishLass

 

[topcat]

I have only made 80% CO soaps. One with 20% shea butter (20% sf) and one with 20% cocoa butter (also 20% sf). I think I like the cocoa butter one more, but time will tell.

I think I want to make a 100% CO one now! :wink:

Tanya

 

[ChrissyB]

It's great, because it's quick to make.

 

[krissy]

is this one of the soaps that will go DOS faster because of the high superfat?
does superfat actually contribute to DOS? sorry if this is a dumb question but i am still learning and havent gotten all that info straight yet. :shock:

 

[carebear]

Nope, it doesn't go rancid (DOS) easily. Remember, coconut oil is very stable!

Krissy, it's not a stupid question = far from it. It's been tossed around for as long as I've been soaping and probably for many years before that. I'd say 85% of soapers assumed it did. But finally - some serious research...

The Caveman Chemist (that Dr. Kevin Dunn, not from Australia ) has shown that the level of superfat is not the issue - but rather the selection of oils. Let me see if I can find the material...

Yea, well I cannot copy and paste it here (the PDF is protected against it), but here's a summary:

He compared 100% coconut to 100% olive and found that the olive will go rancid, where he says "If all our soaps behaved as well as as coconut-oil soap does, we would never see orange spots."

He compared olive oil soaps superfatted at 0% SF and 10% SF and found, at least within that range, no difference in the speed to DOS.

And concludes: "Since our goal is to avoid orange spots altogether, we should not look to changing lye discount as a cure for them."

Just more evidence, IMO, that it's the QUALITY OF YOUR MATERIALS that is key.

 

[Deda]

The Caveman Chemist (that Dr. Kevin Dunn, not from Australia ) has shown that the level of superfat is not the issue - but rather the selection of oils. Let me see if I can find the material...

Yea, well I cannot copy and paste it here (the PDF is protected against it), but here's a summary:

Here' the link - great article.
http://cavemanchemistry.com/HsmgDos2006.pdf

Just more evidence, IMO, that it's the QUALITY OF YOUR MATERIALS that is key.

I completely agree.

 

[carebear]

Thanks, I only have a copy of the whole book to review!

 

[krissy]

thanks so much! it is great to be able to come on here and ask questions. i don't learn well unless i see it done usually, so some of the info given doesn't alway stick in my head, but with everything that people share here, i can always go back to it. y'all are great!

 

[carebear]

I've read a lot, but I can guarantee you that there are very few mistakes I HAVEN'T made for myself. Sometimes because I wanted to see for myself, sometimes because it was something I hadn't come across before, but more often because I simply forgot what I already knew (or should have)...

 

[artisan soaps]

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[krissy]

how much do y'all pay for coconut oil? i have been buying at the store and it is expensive here. i just paid $8 for 14 oz. because i was desperate to make soap i am venturing into other oils so that i don't have to use all of my coconut oil in one batch.

 

[carebear]

Mine costs about a dollar per pound plus about 50 cents per pound shipping from Columbus Foods for the 50# size.

But even if you order a 7# bottle it's only $1.85 per pound plus shipping.

 

[safire_6]

I would like to try the 100% Coconut and 20% SF recipe. What water discount do you recommend? What temp to soap at?

 

[carebear]

I actually recommend soaping warm (around 110F), with full water.

 

[Ganiggle]

I wanna try doing 85% coconut, 10% shea butter and 5% grapeseed. Will that work with a 20% SF too? if not, what SF should I use to ensure that it won't be too drying?

 

[gekko62]

So is it true that coconut oil soap will lather in saltwater?? I have a couple of grubby Aussie fisherbloke friends that love to go fishin for days at a time to isolated muddy uncivilised places with no showers :shock: :shock: ,& they asked for a soap for seawater.Did a little research,(lost interest if Im being completely honest here! lol)...thought it may have to be 0% superfat which would be drying & yuk(mind you,they probably wouldn't even notice lol)

 

[jarvan]

I trust the folks who say that the 100% coconut oil soap when superfatted is a nice soap, but I gotta tell you... I saw the raw breakdown of the hardness, conditioning, etc. on soapcalc and it looks kinda scary. I know when it is superfatted, it probably has completely different properties, but how is it possible to know what those properties are? I know it would depend on the oil used. Maybe I plugged it into soapcalc wrong?

 

[carebear]

jarvan, soapcalc doesn't take into account the superfat - its calculations are actually based on a ZERO percent superfat. so be brave and give it a try!!

Yes, coconut oil soap does lather in salt water, and it's about the only one that does - so if you are soaping for deep sea fishermen or whatnot I recommend at least 75% coconut oil. Again, with a decent superfat although lower - maybe 10% if there is fish stink to deal with.

The 85% CO/20% superfat should work great. I do 75% CO/24% butters with a 10-15% superfat and love it.

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