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I've got several molds, but none shape the whole soap bar, at least one side is flat. Can us little people get "all side" or "wrap around" molds, whatever they might be called, that shape the entire bar, so as to make soap shapes like the pro's do?

Thanks!
 
I'm not sure I understand your question. You can visit Bramble Berry's website to see examples of molds.

I have loaf molds and then slice into bars of soap, similar to slicing bread into slices.

I have single cavity molds in various shapes with open tops. When you pour the soap batter in, the top is level (or level it with a knife). When you pop it out, the top becomes the bottom.
 
Thanks Zing! I too have loaf molds and single cavity molds. What I mean is this - when you pour the soap in there, the top of that soap will ALWAYS be flat (or something very close to flat), since there is no mold on the top of the soap - it will flatten due to gravity. But I know lots of commercial soaps are oval/rounded like all the way around, not flat on ANY side. How is that done? I'd love to get a mold that can do that. Let me know if I am still not making sense. Thanks!
 
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You can buy oval or rounded shaped moulds from Aliexpress or soap suppliers in your country. I have loaf moulds and the soap I put in I texture the top, so it is not flat, so you can do that if you want to.
 
@Saltynuts , I know exactly what you mean. I tried to find a single cavity mold that was rounded with no flatness on the top or bottom. The attached bar is as close as I was able to get. I used this for M & P only. It wasn't very satisfying. As you said, the bottom of the mold was rounded and ovalish but the weight of the soap flattened it a little. I thought the top would not be flat but it settled, giving it a flattish look. I probably bought that mold on Amazon. I don't know if it would work better in cold process soap.

I think you can probably find one out there. I bought a leaf mold on Amazon that has a bottom that is not flat. It has a little support on one end of each cavity that keeps the shape of the leaf so that the weight doesn't flatten it. On Etsy, I saw a "domed" oval mold that had little supports like my leaf mold (except more of them.) The Etsy photo makes it look like the soap has no flat sides. But, you might have to buy it to find out if it truly has no flat side.

If you buy it and it works, let me know!! I'd like to make a soap with no flat sides, too !! Otherwise, you might have to try the candle approach suggested by @paradisi

https://www.amazon.com/BAKER-DEPOT-...ec21f3fb88ae94a463b97f231&psc=1&tag=hyprod-20

https://www.etsy.com/listing/885303...type=ss&ref=landingpage_similar_listing_top-1
 

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I think what you are looking at is milled soap - cold process soap that is then pressed through rollers and or fine meshes in to make a paste which is then pressed into a mold, but not a soft silicone mold. Here’s a short vid example.

 
@Saltynuts , I know exactly what you mean. I tried to find a single cavity mold that was rounded with no flatness on the top or bottom. The attached bar is as close as I was able to get. I used this for M & P only. It wasn't very satisfying. As you said, the bottom of the mold was rounded and ovalish but the weight of the soap flattened it a little. I thought the top would not be flat but it settled, giving it a flattish look. I probably bought that mold on Amazon. I don't know if it would work better in cold process soap.

I think you can probably find one out there. I bought a leaf mold on Amazon that has a bottom that is not flat. It has a little support on one end of each cavity that keeps the shape of the leaf so that the weight doesn't flatten it. On Etsy, I saw a "domed" oval mold that had little supports like my leaf mold (except more of them.) The Etsy photo makes it look like the soap has no flat sides. But, you might have to buy it to find out if it truly has no flat side.

If you buy it and it works, let me know!! I'd like to make a soap with no flat sides, too !! Otherwise, you might have to try the candle approach suggested by @paradisi

https://www.amazon.com/BAKER-DEPOT-...ec21f3fb88ae94a463b97f231&psc=1&tag=hyprod-20

https://www.etsy.com/listing/885303146/6-cavities-dome-circle-cabochon-silicone?click_key=407642b78e5887c1da6ff90701f7bccedfcbefbb:885303146&click_sum=c0d70687&external=1&rec_type=ss&ref=landingpage_similar_listing_top-1

Yes, you and paradisi get it! It is weird, there are not more 2-part molds or the like out there. Having a soap bar that is completely round/oval, whatever you want on one side, but not the same way on the other side (e.g. either flat or flat with some styling added to it), just seems to be surrendering to the big boys, who can pump out hand soaps, etc. that are perfectly rounded on both sides all day/all night. Weird. Still looking! Thanks!
 
I think what you are looking at is milled soap - cold process soap that is then pressed through rollers and or fine meshes in to make a paste which is then pressed into a mold, but not a soft silicone mold. Here’s a short vid example.




Well that definitely got a bar that was rounded all the way around, but I bet that equipment was a weeeee bit more than I can afford. :)
 
Well that definitely got a bar that was rounded all the way around, but I bet that equipment was a weeeee bit more than I can afford. :)
@Vicki C - Uh Yeaaaaaa , that looks like a pricey proposition and out of my price range, too.

Can you take, 2 half molds. And put them together? Rubber bands? Pour in the top of mold? Make your own mold. There are affordable silicone kit's out there.
@Ford, I think a column mold could be made which would require the two sides to clip together. But, you would only be able to make ONE bar of soap at a time. It would be nice to have a multi cavity mold.

It seems to me like it has to be possible to make a mold with a really thick bottom (or supports like that Etsy mold seemed to have ) so that the bottom keeps its rounded/ oval shape, and then a top that is closed enough to fill the oval shape on top so that the soap batter doesn't collapse like it did with my mold BUT where the silicone on the top is still thin enough and flexible enough that you can pry the mold open to get the soap out.

:rolleyes: if only I were an engineer ....
 
@Vicki C - Uh Yeaaaaaa , that looks like a pricey proposition and out of my price range, too.

It seems to me like it has to be possible to make a mold with a really thick bottom (or supports like that Etsy mold seemed to have ) so that the bottom keeps its rounded/ oval shape, and then a top that is closed enough to fill the oval shape on top so that the soap batter doesn't collapse like it did with my mold BUT where the silicone on the top is still thin enough and flexible enough that you can pry the mold open to get the soap out.

:rolleyes: if only I were an engineer ....
Oh, absolutely - I am just showing how I think rounded commercial bars are made and why it’s not simple for crafters like us.
Lisa from I Dream in Soap made some individual rock molds that were closed to the top. I have made 39 rock molds (I know, whacky number, but I have three rocks I use and I’ve made 13 rounds of molds) and have tried different ways of getting least visible “non mold” area. The problem with having complete enclosure is that the soap is really difficult to remove. You’d have to wait a long time to ensure the bar won’t get dented when you remove it. So I have tried 1) laying the rock flat in the mold container and pouring silicone around it, 2) making a little pedestal out of plasticine Clay, and 3) creating a vertical mold container which still requires a little pedestal. (No photo of the vertical mold, sorry) On a lot of the soaps I make you can see where the mold pedestal was but I’ve gotten pretty good at shaving them down with the side of a palette knife. I think I have made about a thousand stone soaps at this point.
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These stone soaps are on their “good” sides, the mold entry point is on the bottom. There must be a real name for the place where you fill a mold. 🤔
Edited to add the hole you use to fill a mold does have a word, at least in metal and plastic casting - it is called a “sprue” 😃
 
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I've got several molds, but none shape the whole soap bar, at least one side is flat. Can us little people get "all side" or "wrap around" molds, whatever they might be called, that shape the entire bar, so as to make soap shapes like the pro's do?

Thanks!
I would do a google search for 3D Ice molds. I found quite a few. You never know who is in the market for a Grenade shaped soap! LOL Really cute molds though on Amazon! :D
 
@Vicki C beat me to it. I was going to suggest heading to YouTube and searching for a "How it's Made" video about soap. As @paradisi says, you will need to find a mold that is in two pieces that press together, then you pour fluid batter into them.

I think most people that are shopping for handmade soap are not going to be drawn to soaps that look like they were made in a factory. They are going to be looking for bars sliced from a loaf. Therefore, there's probably not much demand for a mold like that. 🤷🏼‍♀️
 
These stone soaps are on their “good” sides, the mold entry point is on the bottom. There must be a real name for the place where you fill a mold. 🤔
Edited to add the hole you use to fill a mold does have a word, at least in metal and plastic casting - it is called a “sprue” 😃

Dang, @Vicki C you have really been working on this ! Your rock molds are EXACTLY what I had envisioned. Here, I thought I had a true brainstorm :( Who'd a thunk that hole in the top would even have a name!!! Great rock molds and soaps !!! Darm near perfect!
 
Dang, @Vicki C you have really been working on this ! Your rock molds are EXACTLY what I had envisioned. Here, I thought I had a true brainstorm :( Who'd a thunk that hole in the top would even have a name!!! Great rock molds and soaps !!! Darm near perfect!
Well, thanks! This morning I was driving to my local discount store to hit the early bird senior discount hours to see if I could score cheap coconut oil (Idid not, but I managed to find other things I “needed” 😄) and I had a brainstorm. What if… I created a little funnel on my 3D printer and used that instead of the pedestal when making my mold. Then I could create a little silicone plug by filling it before I put the rock in, and after pouring batter into the mold I could replace the little plug. The batter would have to be very full and a little batter would sort of squish out when I put the plug in to the sprue, but that sort of happens anyway. I will try it and report back.
 
Well, thanks! This morning I was driving to my local discount store to hit the early bird senior discount hours to see if I could score cheap coconut oil (Idid not, but I managed to find other things I “needed” 😄) and I had a brainstorm. What if… I created a little funnel on my 3D printer and used that instead of the pedestal when making my mold. Then I could create a little silicone plug by filling it before I put the rock in, and after pouring batter into the mold I could replace the little plug. The batter would have to be very full and a little batter would sort of squish out when I put the plug in to the sprue, but that sort of happens anyway. I will try it and report back.
Great idea! But do you need a plug at all? Instead, could you simply cover the sprue with plastic wrap?

Also, what about making a two-piece mold that snaps together along the seams? The two pieces don't have to be equal in size; the bottom one could be the majority of the mold, with the top one being more of a lid with an edge around it, and a sprue on top. I can see it in my mind but am having trouble explaining it.

We gave one of our grandsons a 3D printer for Christmas, and he's having a blast with it. If you come up with some soap mold casting designs, I know that he and others would be interested in purchasing the design files. That might be a nice "product" to add to your soapy business. :)
 
Great idea! But do you need a plug at all? Instead, could you simply cover the sprue with plastic wrap?

Also, what about making a two-piece mold that snaps together along the seams? The two pieces don't have to be equal in size; the bottom one could be the majority of the mold, with the top one being more of a lid with an edge around it, and a sprue on top. I can see it in my mind but am having trouble explaining it.

We gave one of our grandsons a 3D printer for Christmas, and he's having a blast with it. If you come up with some soap mold casting designs, I know that he and others would be interested in purchasing the design files. That might be a nice "product" to add to your soapy business. :)
I don’t know how to make a cast of a stone and then 3d print it, but someone probably does. The cool thing about the silicone molds is the level of detail that the silicone picks up - the surface really looks like a stone.
Re the funnel idea my thought is that the plug would have the stone surface so there would be no “sprue scar” as it were. I’m probably not explaining it well. I’ll try to do it this winter and post pics.
 
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