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Are you using a chelator like sodium citrate in your Almond Oil soap @Jorah? According to SMF soap calculator Almond oil has 18% linoleic acid, which may be high enough to make it vulnerable to DOS. The amber spots appear to go throughout the soap. Is there any way to find out if it’s clumped honey?

I've got some sodium citrate I think; I'll add some to my next batch.
If the Almond oil soap has DOS, it goes throughout the soap, which is what the pic looks like to me. There isn’t a good way to correct the problem in your finished bars. DOS will continue to get worse, then the bars may even get rancid. I had this happen 20 years ago when I made soap with grapeseed oil.

Let the almond oil soap age longer before sending it out and see if the discoloration continues to develop. If you make new batches, make them small for testing and be sure to use a chelator.

🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 that those are honey spots.
There's been no sign of the spots growing, and the bars are hard and smooth, almost like plastic (I'm guessing it's the beeswax), and very nice in the shower. I'm keeping nearly all of the first batch for me! (me, me, me!)
 
Made a special request small batch of Lavender soap with Lavender Bloom FO from BB.
I did the other half of my batch with a discoloring FO trial bottle - First Love from NS. It says it discolors to dark brown so I added gold mica to try to embrace the change.
I did a try a ombré-ish for both of them. I’m going to let them firm up a bit more before I bevel them.
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I've mentioned in other threads that I have the common variety* red-green color blindness, and for me one of the side-effects is that I rarely notice color; I generally have to consciously decide to focus on colors. Anyway, in soap making, one of the results is that I haven't noticed if I have DOS on my soap very often. Thanks to folks on this thread I've realized that I got some DOS where my soap was drying on metal shelving (I've put a stop to that!) and as @QuasiQuadrant mentioned in the DOS thread, @AliOop helped me learn that even leaving the soap on painted or bare wood can cause problems, so now everything is on wax paper or parchment paper.

Anyway, my wife is usually the one who notices orange spots, and she says that my almond oil soap (one of the first bars I made back in April (and the one I'm showering with right now, and loving), has the worst problem with the spots. I can't tell if this might be poorly-blended honey, poorly-blended beeswax, actual DOS from bad oil, or what. I'm keeping it for me, so I'm not worried about it, but this soap is so nice, I want to share it with people! (once I fix the ugly spots).

Anyway, I've finally used up the last of the grocery-store almond oil that I got in April and am about to break into a fresh bottle from BB. I'm hoping that the batch I make today won't have the problem. If I can make an un-spotty version consistently, I think this may be the first custom soap I put up for sale.

If I can isolate what's causing the spots, I can focus on fixing them. It is tempting to make many changes at once, but I know that's not the right testing approach, so I'll make today's test batch with the same recipe as my first two almond oil and honey batches, but new oil. If there are still spots, my next test will be to leave out the melted beeswax. If that doesn't solve it, I'll try getting a different honey, although we have SO MUCH HONEY in the house as the result of a previous hobby of my wife's (mead making) that I was hoping to use the old honey in my soap to start chipping away at it.

Anyway, this weekend's 'soapy things' list is overly ambitious, but that's just how I roll with my to-do lists.
  1. Weekly weigh-in on my Cure Cards.
  2. Make a test batch of my almond oil and honey soap with new almond oil.
  3. Make my next experimental high-honey recipe. This is a re-do of the 8% batch from last weekend that I ended up rebatching.
  4. Make my third batch of 72%-with-madder-root, making sure to blend the powder with water this time (oh, and with a bit less of a water discount).
  5. Try to clear out more space on my workbench.
  6. Send out invitation surveys to my testers.
  7. Set up a packing-shipping station on my dining room table.
  8. Pack a batch of test bars to send to my business mentor in Kansas on Monday.
  9. Start learning Soapmaking Friend and put in my raw materials inventory.
  10. If I have time, I'll start drafting my feedback survey so my testers have somewhere to give me feedback.
  11. If I have time, I want to make one more another pumice batch, this time using the Blacksmith recipe I've seen mentioned here to learn about borax use. I've already started using the pumice-and-charcoal soap in my workshop, and I like it!
  12. I have Monday off from work, so I should probably see about setting up the open-source shopping cart on my soap site. I already had someone try buying soap on the site, though it isn't set up yet!
Soaps mentioned in the post:

Pumice and charcoal.
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The rebatched honey soap.

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This soap (with the bee 'medallion') was my second batch of almond oil and honey.

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Finally, these are from my first almond oil and honey batch. This is based on a recipe in Anne L. Watson's Smart Soapmaking book. These bars lather like crazy when used with a shower scrubby, and I love them, ugly as they may be. I swear my minor skin issues have started clearing up since I began using this soap in the shower a few weeks ago.

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*Anomalous trichromatic. If you're interested, read more here: Red-Green Color Blindness - All About Vision
You may have already found @DeeAnna ’s soapy stuff info - I have read everything in there, and I have found it all very helpful. Here’s some great info on chelators, DOS, and rancidity. I started adding sodium gluconate to every master batch of lye after reading this. What is a chelator | Soapy Stuff
 
Busy market weekend for me, all day hometown fair that got called about two hours early due to impending thunderstorms. After being way too warm all day all the vendors had to scurry around getting everything packed up, as thunder was getting louder and louder. Amazingly I beat the rain. (Amazing because I am always the last one to finish packing up.) Today‘s market was a huge contrast - cool, dry, breezy, absolutely perfect. 😃
 
I wonder why @DeeAnna has a separate page for sodium citrate and potassium citrate where she mentions they are chelators and fight soap scum?
@Vicki C linked the general page on chelators and then there are additional pages with more details for the citrates, sodium gluconate and tetrasodium edta.

Made a special request small batch of Lavender soap with Lavender Bloom FO from BB.
I did the other half of my batch with a discoloring FO trial bottle - First Love from NS. It says it discolors to dark brown so I added gold mica to try to embrace the change.
I did a try a ombré-ish for both of them. I’m going to let them firm up a bit more before I bevel them.
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Nice pointy swirl type action happening in those soaps!
 
You may have already found @DeeAnna ’s soapy stuff info - I have read everything in there, and I have found it all very helpful. Here’s some great info on chelators, DOS, and rancidity. I started adding sodium gluconate to every master batch of lye after reading this. What is a chelator | Soapy Stuff
Thanks for that pointer, I'd not previously seen it!
 
After messing around with the recipe sheets for far longer than I expected, I finally started making soap at noon. About 5 hours later (including a long break for lunch), I completed a four of my planned batches, including the reworked 'hard as rock' 8% honey recipe that I had to rebatch last weekend (sans stearic acid!).

Nothing got out of hand, and my 'nearly white' Borax and Pumice batch looks like it's going to be a winner (at least how it looks!). Memo to self: stop for water more often!
Made a special request small batch of Lavender soap with Lavender Bloom FO from BB.
I did the other half of my batch with a discoloring FO trial bottle - First Love from NS. It says it discolors to dark brown so I added gold mica to try to embrace the change.
I did a try a ombré-ish for both of them. I’m going to let them firm up a bit more before I bevel them.
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I really like the look of those, and it reminds me that I've been meaning to make my first lavender soap. I have some lavender colorant, too, so perhaps that will be my first August batch...
 
I took a bunch of soap and some other goodies to my gathering this weekend. Out of a wide range of scents, it looks like the most popular were a jasmine and honeysuckle blend I made using FB Jasmin Showers and BB Heavenly Honeysuckle, BB’s Eucalyptus & Cotton, White Tea & Ginger (from BB or FB) and any soap scented with OT’s Mysore Sandalwood as part of the blend.
 
Nice soap! I like the design and the colors 🔥
Thank you! ❤️
I took a bunch of soap and some other goodies to my gathering this weekend. Out of a wide range of scents, it looks like the most popular were a jasmine and honeysuckle blend I made using FB Jasmin Showers and BB Heavenly Honeysuckle, BB’s Eucalyptus & Cotton, White Tea & Ginger (from BB or FB) and any soap scented with OT’s Mysore Sandalwood as part of the blend.
Jasmine and honeysuckle sounds lovely!
 
I want to see it! @VikingChick what was your entry name?

EDIT: I see there is only one in the regular entry with 7 votes, so I'm guessing that's you. Electrify? Super cool colors!
It was called “Crossfire.” I had to enter in the Advanced category since I’ve been making soap for >3 years. (Hard to believe!)

It was called “Crossfire.” I had to enter in the Advanced category since I’ve been making soap for >3 years. (Hard to believe!)
I’ll just drop the pic here ☺️
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Funny story…..I don’t have any fancy photography equipment….that dark gray background is one of my work jackets! 😅
 
Wow @VikingChick, that’s awesome! I was trying to decide which one I thought was yours 🥰

May I ask what you used to swing through your soap? I watched Lisa @ I Dream in Soap make her entry - super cool technique! 🥰😍🥰
Aw, thanks! ❤️ My tool was simply a hanger tool, wrapped with electrical tape to make it thicker. I went through at different angles and different heights to make the X shape. I alternated segments of black oxide with an ITPS of red, yellow, and white.(All of the colors could’ve been more vibrant.) I watched Lisa’s video too - it was really nice! I don’t have a 3D printer, though, so I worked with what I had. My dividers were index cards reinforced with clear plastic shipping tape. 😁

it was a really fun technique to try!
 
It was called “Crossfire.” I had to enter in the Advanced category since I’ve been making soap for >3 years. (Hard to believe!)


I’ll just drop the pic here ☺️ View attachment 73928Funny story…..I don’t have any fancy photography equipment….that dark gray background is one of my work jackets! 😅

That's amazing!
 
It was called “Crossfire.” I had to enter in the Advanced category since I’ve been making soap for >3 years. (Hard to believe!)


I’ll just drop the pic here ☺️ View attachment 73928Funny story…..I don’t have any fancy photography equipment….that dark gray background is one of my work jackets! 😅
I have no words! You have really upped your game. What is this technique called?! And your gray jacket looks better than my terry cloth towel.
 

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