I have been testing the hypothesis that sodium acetate has an effect on soap comparable to the hardening effect of sodium lactate.
One of the implications would be that you can get the benefits of SL by simply replacing all or part of your lye water with vinegar. The acetic acid in vinegar promptly reacts with sodium hydroxide to produce sodium acetate.
There was a gentleman named Leonard M. Liddle who wrote a short piece for a chemical engineering journal on this subject. Almost 100 years ago, he filed a patent for the use of sodium lactate and sodium acetate to harden soap. I think some of you will find it very interesting. You can see it here:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US1377843.pdf
My original thread on this subject, which includes initial testing and any numbers and calculations you might be interested in, is located here:
http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?t=57991
TeresaT recently did a relevant experiment by substituting apple cider vinegar for water. This thread describes the enhanced hardness and easy demolding of the resulting soap:
http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?t=59092
There will be some additional results posted at the end of the week when I get back from a business trip. Here however is something I did on the way out of town.
I tested chunks of the 2 test soaps from the original experiment using a soil penetrometer. A penetrometer tests the hardness of something by poking into it. Higher numbers signify greater hardness, meaning more force required to poke into the soap to a depth of 1/4 inch.
I tested each soap sample at one end and on one face and averaged two readings from each location. The end was harder than the face for both soaps.
Plain soap, face: 2.8 kg/cm2
Plain soap, end: 3.3 kg/cm2
Sodium acetate, face: 4.3 kg/cm2
Sodium acetate, end: > 4.5 kg/cm2 (exceeded the maximum reading)
One of the implications would be that you can get the benefits of SL by simply replacing all or part of your lye water with vinegar. The acetic acid in vinegar promptly reacts with sodium hydroxide to produce sodium acetate.
There was a gentleman named Leonard M. Liddle who wrote a short piece for a chemical engineering journal on this subject. Almost 100 years ago, he filed a patent for the use of sodium lactate and sodium acetate to harden soap. I think some of you will find it very interesting. You can see it here:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US1377843.pdf
My original thread on this subject, which includes initial testing and any numbers and calculations you might be interested in, is located here:
http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?t=57991
TeresaT recently did a relevant experiment by substituting apple cider vinegar for water. This thread describes the enhanced hardness and easy demolding of the resulting soap:
http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?t=59092
There will be some additional results posted at the end of the week when I get back from a business trip. Here however is something I did on the way out of town.
I tested chunks of the 2 test soaps from the original experiment using a soil penetrometer. A penetrometer tests the hardness of something by poking into it. Higher numbers signify greater hardness, meaning more force required to poke into the soap to a depth of 1/4 inch.
I tested each soap sample at one end and on one face and averaged two readings from each location. The end was harder than the face for both soaps.
Plain soap, face: 2.8 kg/cm2
Plain soap, end: 3.3 kg/cm2
Sodium acetate, face: 4.3 kg/cm2
Sodium acetate, end: > 4.5 kg/cm2 (exceeded the maximum reading)
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