Stinky Soap, Not Deodorizing

[Chefmom]

My husband works long days, 12+ hours on top of roofs in high heat. He does not like any soap that I make with a super fat over 5%. His preference is for soaps that have some pumice in them in the summer.

His words, I want to feel like its cleaning me and I want it to rinse clean. He does not like any soaps with shea or cocoa butter at all. It took quite a few soap recipes before he told me his favorite. It is a basic soap recipe with a touch of castor, only 2%. Nice and bubbly and a good rinse. Only after I perfected the recipe did I experiment with fragrances for him. He likes straight tea tree oil for scent and two special blends that I created for him based on his scent faves.

He uses the soap for his shower after work, but he still has to use deodorant for his armpits. I am reading about homemade deodorants to try for him...he would like to try natural deodorant.

 

[IrishLass]

Hi all, the recipe is 8 oz. Coconut oil, 8 oz. Castor oil and 16 oz. Soy bean oil. I used 2 Tbsp. cocoa powder for color and was hoping for chocolate scent and Japanese cherry fragrant oil about 20 drops

I think the above bolded may be a contributing factor.... unless I'm missing something, that is- i.e. was that a typo, or was the soap already scented before you rebatched it? If not, 20 drops of fragrance oil in a 2 lb batch would just get lost or completely disappear into nothingness. In order for scent to come through nicely, you should start out with at least .5 oz. of scent per pound of oils, sometimes more, depending on the fragrance oil's strength.


IrishLass

 

[The Efficacious Gentleman]

Aye, soap alone won't keep him through from night shower to the next night shower. The alum is a good idea. As is a mix of baking soda, corn flour (50/50 is too strong for me, I am going for 1 part baking soda, 2 parts corn flour in the future) with CO added until it is a paste. Smear a little (not too much) on the armpits in the morning. It might take a while until he gets the required amount just right - too much and it can mess up the shirts etc that he wears.

I scented mine with lavendar, but you can use what ever you fancy, I am sure.

 

[dillsandwitch]

His words, I want to feel like its cleaning me and I want it to rinse clean. He does not like any soaps with shea or cocoa butter at all. It took quite a few soap recipes before he told me his favorite. It is a basic soap recipe with a touch of castor, only 2%. Nice and bubbly and a good rinse. Only after I perfected the recipe did I experiment with fragrances for him. He likes straight tea tree oil for scent and two special blends that I created for him based on his scent faves.

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any chance you could share this recipe with me? Both myself and my partner are roofers and he can get pretty stinky and dirty roblem: Im fine with using nice mild soap but like your hubby mine likes that feeling hes being cleaned. TIA

 

[seven]

in my country, alum is pretty popular as a quick-cheap-natural deodorant. some ppl just put the alum rocks in a small jar, put a lil bit of water, and just rub it on their armpit. i'm going to try making soap with alum as well as adding some betel leaves extract.

 

[dixiedragon]

20 drops of fragrance is much too small. For your recipe, you needed 2 tablespoons to get a medium fragrance, I'm guessing.

You really need to find some tried-and-true recipes that use ingredients available to you, and try those.

 

[WhackySoaper]

Hi Obsidian, that info is so very helpful. Yes I will make him his very own power soap, can you please tell me can I just rebatch this one and add more cleansing oil or should I just make from scratch? I don't have yet palm kernel but here is my reason for getting it sooner than later.

 

[CanaDawn]

Hi Obsidian, that info is so very helpful. Yes I will make him his very own power soap, can you please tell me can I just rebatch this one and add more cleansing oil or should I just make from scratch? I don't have yet palm kernel but here is my reason for getting it sooner than later.

You won't be able to rebatch and add oil if it is now correctly balanced and saponified (all the oils turned into soap and all the lye used up). You'll need to make a fresh batch with the more cleansing oil (it is described as more cleansing, but that refers to the way it acts when it is made into soap, not the oil before then)

What do you all think about a rebatch with baking soda or something along those lines?

 

[WhackySoaper]

Hi CanaDawn, LOL yes you are right I'm sitting here reading your post and cracking up thinking about what my hubby thinks of what I've been putting him through. Thank goodness he wuvs me huh? LOL . I will get this figured out with all of u guys help and great advise and I truly do Thank each and everyone for trying to help me . Your question of how I decided on how much more oil to add, I used soap calc to get the amount of oils and the oils I added were 9 oz. shea butter and soybean 20 oz.

 

[WhackySoaper]

Hi dixiedragon, yes it's my fault I have a stinky hubby LMBO. Thank you so much for your help, I bought a ton of essential and fragrance oils so our soap definitely won't be lacking in fragrance ever again. I have found a lot of recipes but it's hard to find small batch recipes and I haven't figured out yet how to scale the big batch recipes down to what I need yet.

 

[WhackySoaper]

Hi Chefmom, Thanks for your reply. That makes sense that we will have to try a few different things to get it right. I had read about Tea Tree antibacterial properties and thought about using it but I didn't in this soap because I don't really like the smell. Can you smell the Tee Tree with the other fragrances you add?

 

[WhackySoaper]

Hi IrishLass, and Thanks for your reply. I guess you can tell I'm very new to soaping and looks like true to my nic LOL. Yeah I've learned from all of you that I did not add enough fragrance and cleansing oil. My next batch will be better

 

[WhackySoaper]

Hello The Efficacious Gentleman, and Thanks for your reply. I've started tinkering around with the home made deodorant I haven't gotten it quite right yet but I'm working on it. :-o

 

[WhackySoaper]

OMG, CanaDawn there is so much to learn about soaping but I like learning. Can you please recommend a good cleansing recipe? Thanks

 

[LunaSkye]

Aye, soap alone won't keep him through from night shower to the next night shower. The alum is a good idea. As is a mix of baking soda, corn flour (50/50 is too strong for me, I am going for 1 part baking soda, 2 parts corn flour in the future) with CO added until it is a paste. Smear a little (not too much) on the armpits in the morning. It might take a while until he gets the required amount just right - too much and it can mess up the shirts etc that he wears.

I scented mine with lavendar, but you can use what ever you fancy, I am sure.

I used a recipe similar to that for myself (1/3 baking soda, 1/3 cornstarch, 1/3 CO). I liked how it worked for the most part, but I eventually had to stop using it because it irritated my underarms after approximately 1 month. :sad: Either my skin is too sensitive or I made an major error. In any case, it was good while it lasted.

This link might help anyone if they want to make their own deoderant:
http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?t=39931&highlight=deoderant

 

[new12soap]

I don't know where you live, but here in the US you can make an excellent soap with grocery store ingredients. If you want something high in cleansing for your husband, and super simple, I would suggest something like this:

35% Olive oil (regular olive oil, don't need extra virgin)
35% Lard, tallow, or palm (I use lard from the grocery store and love it in soap)
25% Coconut oil (the luana brand from walmart or the grocery store works great)
5% castor oil (found in the pharmacy section)

I would suggest making a 2lb batch. On soapcalc at the top you can put in your total weight of oils for whatever size batch you want, I would leave the water on the default setting, and put in fragrance at 3% if you are using essential oils. You can choose to enter your oils as a percentage.

After you make the soap it is very important to let it cure for a minimum of 4 weeks, 6-8 is better. I know it is hard to be patient but good soap takes time.

HTH

 

[dixiedragon]

You won't be able to rebatch and add oil if it is now correctly balanced and saponified (all the oils turned into soap and all the lye used up). You'll need to make a fresh batch with the more cleansing oil (it is described as more cleansing, but that refers to the way it acts when it is made into soap, not the oil before then)

What do you all think about a rebatch with baking soda or something along those lines?

This is not correct. Some people make soap in large, unscented batches, then grate it, and melt it down to make smaller batches in different scents.

Here's some info on rebatching.
http://www.millersoap.com/re.html

I have never heard of anyone putting baking soda in soap. But I think it could majorly throw off the soap chemistry. The chemical reaction that makes soap is based off oil (acid) + lye (base) = soap. I know people have tried adding lemon juice to soap and that messes it up.

I make a stinky foot soap for my dad using coffee grounds and tea tree oil. Tea tree had a strong medicinal smell. I happen to like it, but some people don't. I find the combination of the coffee grounds + plus the tea tree smell to be pleasant.

 

[CanaDawn]

This is not correct. Some people make soap in large, unscented batches, then grate it, and melt it down to make smaller batches in different scents.

Yes, that is rebatching...BUT the poster wanted to know if they could add cleansing oils (which would have to be saponified to be cleansing into a rebatch, which won't work, as they won't saponify, and will just be SF oil

Of course you can rebatch and add scent or anything additional that you want....but you can't add oil to a soap that has used up all the lye and hope it will saponify.

I have never heard of anyone putting baking soda in soap. But I think it could majorly throw off the soap chemistry. The chemical reaction that makes soap is based off oil (acid) + lye (base) = soap. I know people have tried adding lemon juice to soap and that messes it up.

There's a whole other thread on people who have done it....added baking soda, both as an ingredient in the raw soap, AND into rebatches. So yeah, it's possible. We've also discussed the chemistry of baking soda and lye to washing soda and it's saponification qualities.

http://www.soapmakingforum.com/showthread.php?t=47178

 

[WhackySoaper]

Hi new12soap, that sounds great I will try it but I make HP because I am impatient. Thank you for your reply