Red turkey castor used in place of regular castor oil

[techiemeka]

Hi. A friend used red turkey castor oil in place of her regular amount of castor oil for her latest batch of cold process soap. I haven't seen her soap yet but I'm concerned that it would be lye heavy. My reading tells me that that red turkey castor is not saponifiable. Any thoughts? TIA

 

[shunt2011]

Hi. A friend used red turkey castor oil in place of her regular amount of castor oil for her latest batch of cold process soap. I haven't seen her soap yet but I'm concerned that it would be lye heavy. My reading tells me that that red turkey castor is not saponifiable. Any thoughts? TIA

Turkey Red Castor Oil has a SAP value of 127 / Regular Castor has a SAP value of 128. So, it should be fine. A simple google search gave the answer.

 

[IrishLass]

In my reading, there seems to be some confusion surrounding the question of whether red turkey castor oil has a true SAP number. Some say yes, as Shari's search bore out, but there are others that say no. Here is a very interesting blog post by someone who posed the question to Dr. Kevin Dunn, author of Scientific Soapmaking, and what his findings were (from experiments, it's true SAP seems to be somewhere near zero): http://edgewatersoaps.blogspot.com/2010/01/scientific-soapmaking-sulfated-castor.html

I checked the forum here and found a thread started by someone who had subbed it in her regular bar soap recipe in place of castor and her soap came out on the oily/greasy side: https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/turkey-red-sulfated-castor-oil.39690/

And here's another thread I found on whether or not it's a good thing to add to a bar soap recipe: https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/turkey-red-oil-sulfated-castor-oil.26824/


IrishLass

 

[shunt2011]

Okay, I have done more research and it seems it depends on where you look. Soaper's Choice does not give it a SAP number. A couple sources do. Certainly makes it a bit confusing. I personally would avoid it in soap. IL's were a couple I read too.....

 

[techiemeka]

In my reading, there seems to be some confusion surrounding the question of whether red turkey castor oil has a true SAP number. Some say yes, as Shari's search bore out, but there are others that say no. Here is a very interesting blog post by someone who posed the question to Dr. Kevin Dunn, author of Scientific Soapmaking, and what his findings were (from experiments, it's true SAP seems to be somewhere near zero): http://edgewatersoaps.blogspot.com/2010/01/scientific-soapmaking-sulfated-castor.html

I checked the forum here and found a thread started by someone who had subbed it in her regular bar soap recipe in place of castor and her soap came out on the oily/greasy side: https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/turkey-red-sulfated-castor-oil.39690/

And here's another thread I found on whether or not it's a good thing to add to a bar soap recipe: https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/turkey-red-oil-sulfated-castor-oil.26824/


IrishLass

Thanks Irishlass I had found those same posts as well which is why I asked again as the answers in the above posts seemed to vary.

Turkey Red Castor Oil has a SAP value of 127 / Regular Castor has a SAP value of 128. So, it should be fine. A simple google search gave the answer.

Thanks. I too did a Google search, however, read conflicting thoughts on the SAP value.