Raspberry/Cranberry color

[Soapsense]

Okay, what do I mix together to get it, or can I buy it? Maybe I'm not looking at the right vendors.

 

[Hazel]

What you consider a raspberry/cranberry color may be different from what I think is the color. I consider it a deeper red yet a bright red. I know it's hard to explain in writing. I think you'd need to find a colorant which is more of a true red. I've heard ruby red peacock dye is a true red but I don't know for sure because I haven't tried it. What colorants have you tried?

 

[Soapsense]

Sorry, your right raspberry can be very light or dark, I am trying for a dark color like the color of raspberry jam.
I tried mixing a red oxide with a purple, and it came out brick red.

 

[newbie]

You could try adding just a little black mica to your red (the truest you can find). Start with just a very little and see if you can darken it to the depth you want. You might be able to achieve it this way.

 

[Hazel]

I've used Colorona Bordeaux (may have been the Glitter Bordeaux - not sure now) from TKB in a Black Raspberry soap. It's not quite a raspberry color but more of a wine. However, I liked it since I thought it went well with the scent. http://www.tkbtrading.com/item.php?item_id=37

Perhaps you could try this mica and blend it with a true red like ruby red peacock dye. http://www.ellensessentials.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=249

 

[Soapsense]

Thank you so nuch for the links and replies, the scent I was trying to match the color for is raspberry vanilla

 

[Hazel]

You're welcome and I hope the links help you. Is this a non-discoloring FO? A lot of vanilla scents turn brown so adding colorants might not be a good idea.

 

[Soapsense]

I did buy a vanilla color stabilizer, will this help?

 

[Marilyna]

D & C Red 33 (a dye) will give you this. Is that close?

 

[newbie]

If the FO discolors from vanilla, the stabilizer will help for several months, maybe 6, maybe 9 but eventually the soap will discolor. If you are going to use it within few months of making it, you should be fine.

 

[Soapsense]

Marilyna, the first one is great!
I do plan on giving it away as soon as it is cured, I think I may have to find some more friends if I keep
Making more soap, lol

 

[Marilyna]

I think the first one has slightly more color added to it.

 

[Hazel]

I did buy a vanilla color stabilizer, will this help?

I tried the CP vanilla color stabilizer from WSP and it started to discolor within weeks. So, I don't know how well the one you have would work.

 

[Soapsense]

I tried the CP vanilla color stabilizer from WSP and it started to discolor within weeks. So, I don't know how well the one you have would work.

Thats the one I bought....

 

[VanessaP]

I tried the CP vanilla color stabilizer from WSP and it started to discolor within weeks. So, I don't know how well the one you have would work.

I bought the stabilizer from NG. I used their Lemon Poppyseed FO that has 6% vanilla in it. I used 1.15oz FO to 0.5oz stabilizer. It is now at least 3.5 months old and hasn't started to turn yet. I do keep it boxed up for storage though, so I'm sure that is helping to keep it from browning at least a little bit as well as the stabilizer.

Edit: I checked my notes on the amounts of stabilizer & FO used.

 

[Genny]

If you're using WSP's Black Raspberry Vanilla, it doesn't discolor because there's no vanillin in it.
It always faded in CP almost right away for me though

 

[melstan775]

Sorry, your right raspberry can be very light or dark, I am trying for a dark color like the color of raspberry jam.
I tried mixing a red oxide with a purple, and it came out brick red.

Try mixing red or orange red with blue to balance the red to a more cool-toned red. Otherwise, you can try mixing red and a pink or magenta to get the color, and add black or white to lighten or darken as you like. I'm positive that will work to achieve a raspberry color, the question is whether the color mix will survive the lye monster.

 

[Hazel]

Thats the one I bought....

What's the percentage of vanillin in your FO? The one I used was really high - something like 11%. If the percentage isn't too high, it might turn out fine. You could also try using more than the recommended amount. When I contacted WSP about the discoloration, they told me to double the recommended amount. I was not pleased with the answer. My attitude was I'm not doubling the amount at the price I paid for it. I thought it was freakin' expensive and a waste of money!

A tip someone mentioned was to combine the FO and stabilizer and let them meld together for awhile before adding them to the batch. I don't remember the time she mentioned - maybe 10-15 minutes. Although, I don't know if this would work for a FO with a high percentage of vanillin. I gave up on using it and just accepted that some of my soaps will be brown.

 

[marghewitt]

I use Brambleberry Red Velvet Lab color mixed with some Black pigment to make my Black Raspberry Vanilla soap. I use BB's FO and don't get any discoloration with the vanilla. It is one of my most popular soaps.

 

[Genny]

So pretty!!