Thanks everybody for your replies. I am glad I asked bout superfat %. I was going to do 5% with lard soap. Seems like everybody is having soap scum with 5%, so I will stick to 2% and will report later.
Interesting ~ hadn't really thought about combining lard and tallow in the same batchSo I finally got the lard 2 days ago and did couple batches of soap yesterday. I LOVE it.
I settled on 40% lard, 40% tallow, 15% coconut and 5% castor.
First of all, the trace is very slow. It is perfect to do any swirls I ever wanted.
With the first batch I wanted to do a hanger swirl, so I divided the batch into 2/3 main, and 1/3 was divided in half. The large batch I added couple drops of annatto in olive oil, wanted to make yellow base. And for the smaller 2, I mixed with different amounts indigo in olive oil, the smallest batch got the most of indigo. This batch ended up tracing very fast and it was pretty much clumps when I was trying to pour it in the middle of the mold. The other indigo batch was kind of OK, but still thick. The batch with annatto was so thin, that I had ended up waiting about 10 min after doing the hanger swirl before I could finish the top.
Here is the resulting soap:
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I called it cloud soap. As you see, the darker spots got dragged by the hanger, And the annatto ended up being pinkish-purple, nothing yellow or orange about it. So I know never put olive oil into this mix, it will accelerate the batter.
My next batch I wanted to do a ghost soap. Followed the instructions of "Holly's soap making" on youtube, but with my recipe. Here is what came out of it.
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The batter behaved very well. the high water part accelerated slightly but with lots of time to work with. In fact, it is the first recipe the I had to stick blend for like 7 min almost continuously before it even came to a thin trace. It was so thin that I was worried that I am getting a false trace.
BTW, I mixed the lye and oils both around 110F because at lower temp the oils were getting cloudy. I normally soap around 80-85 to prevent fast trace.
I am very excited. Thanks every one for all the info about lard. Alone with tallow, the lard became my favorite fat to work with.
you should, with coconut makes absolutely white soap, almost translucent. And just like I said earlier, tallow speeds the trace a lot, with lard - it is very well behavedInteresting ~ hadn't really thought about combining lard and tallow in the same batch
Did you end up sticking with 2% superfat? The ghost soap looks amazing!!!So I finally got the lard 2 days ago and did couple batches of soap yesterday. I LOVE it.
I settled on 40% lard, 40% tallow, 15% coconut and 5% castor.
First of all, the trace is very slow. It is perfect to do any swirls I ever wanted.
With the first batch I wanted to do a hanger swirl, so I divided the batch into 2/3 main, and 1/3 was divided in half. The large batch I added couple drops of annatto in olive oil, wanted to make yellow base. And for the smaller 2, I mixed with different amounts indigo in olive oil, the smallest batch got the most of indigo. This batch ended up tracing very fast and it was pretty much clumps when I was trying to pour it in the middle of the mold. The other indigo batch was kind of OK, but still thick. The batch with annatto was so thin, that I had ended up waiting about 10 min after doing the hanger swirl before I could finish the top.
Here is the resulting soap:
View attachment 76704
I called it cloud soap. As you see, the darker spots got dragged by the hanger, And the annatto ended up being pinkish-purple, nothing yellow or orange about it. So I know never put olive oil into this mix, it will accelerate the batter.
My next batch I wanted to do a ghost soap. Followed the instructions of "Holly's soap making" on youtube, but with my recipe. Here is what came out of it.
View attachment 76705View attachment 76706
The batter behaved very well. the high water part accelerated slightly but with lots of time to work with. In fact, it is the first recipe the I had to stick blend for like 7 min almost continuously before it even came to a thin trace. It was so thin that I was worried that I am getting a false trace.
BTW, I mixed the lye and oils both around 110F because at lower temp the oils were getting cloudy. I normally soap around 80-85 to prevent fast trace.
I am very excited. Thanks every one for all the info about lard. Alone with tallow, the lard became my favorite fat to work with.
That ghost soap is beautiful. Did you add a fragrance?So I finally got the lard 2 days ago and did couple batches of soap yesterday. I LOVE it.
I settled on 40% lard, 40% tallow, 15% coconut and 5% castor.
First of all, the trace is very slow. It is perfect to do any swirls I ever wanted.
With the first batch I wanted to do a hanger swirl, so I divided the batch into 2/3 main, and 1/3 was divided in half. The large batch I added couple drops of annatto in olive oil, wanted to make yellow base. And for the smaller 2, I mixed with different amounts indigo in olive oil, the smallest batch got the most of indigo. This batch ended up tracing very fast and it was pretty much clumps when I was trying to pour it in the middle of the mold. The other indigo batch was kind of OK, but still thick. The batch with annatto was so thin, that I had ended up waiting about 10 min after doing the hanger swirl before I could finish the top.
Here is the resulting soap:
View attachment 76704
I called it cloud soap. As you see, the darker spots got dragged by the hanger, And the annatto ended up being pinkish-purple, nothing yellow or orange about it. So I know never put olive oil into this mix, it will accelerate the batter.
My next batch I wanted to do a ghost soap. Followed the instructions of "Holly's soap making" on youtube, but with my recipe. Here is what came out of it.
View attachment 76705View attachment 76706
The batter behaved very well. the high water part accelerated slightly but with lots of time to work with. In fact, it is the first recipe the I had to stick blend for like 7 min almost continuously before it even came to a thin trace. It was so thin that I was worried that I am getting a false trace.
BTW, I mixed the lye and oils both around 110F because at lower temp the oils were getting cloudy. I normally soap around 80-85 to prevent fast trace.
I am very excited. Thanks every one for all the info about lard. Alone with tallow, the lard became my favorite fat to work with.
I added Levander and Cedar from Brumble BerryThat ghost soap is beautiful. Did you add a fragrance?
Thanks for this reminder "Soapers". I am here discovering supply houses as well as the op. I am wanting to restart my hobby with lard/tallow soaps.I purchased lard at the supermarket for a small batch, and from Soapers Choice when masterbatching.
My latest discovery is that I can go to the meat department at a large grocery store, right towards the end of the shift, when I can buy pork fat that has been trimmed from chops and roasts. I brought some home and rendered it myself. It’s easy to do when the weather is cold outside to help separate rendered fat from water. Making sure lard or tallow are absolutely fresh should help avoid acceleration from aging fatty acids.
, what FOR REAL!! I have only rendered tallow some time ago. I thought it labor or rather time intensive. I would just as soon purchase it due to time constraints. Like now, it is 0500 and I am about to skedaddle out into the darkness to head 2m5 hours away to the city to an emergency dept for work.My dad's a butcher/meat cutter. I wouldn't render my own fats at home. While it smells wonderful to me, you will never get it out of any clothing or items lol. It's in their for good.
Truth! Plus the smell in the house! This is why I render mine outside in an electric turkey toaster pan, while wearing clothes that are only used for rendering.My dad's a butcher/meat cutter. I wouldn't render my own fats at home. While it smells wonderful to me, you will never get it out of any clothing or items lol. It's in their for good.
This is so good to know! I'm trying to get some tallow from a butcher my extended family uses. I'm pretty sure I'll have to render it. Now I know that it's going to be a outdoor activity!Truth! Plus the smell in the house! This is why I render mine outside in an electric turkey toaster pan, while wearing clothes that are only used for rendering.
Walmart and the grocery stores I go to all sell the same brands -- Armour, Morrell, etc. -- and they all have additives....LARD AND HYDROGENATED LARD, BHA, PROPYL GALLATE AND CITRIC ACID ADDED TO PROTECT FLAVOR. Any problems with these ingredients?...
I'm getting Walter White vibes here lolTruth! Plus the smell in the house! This is why I render mine outside in an electric turkey toaster pan, while wearing clothes that are only used for rendering.
This is so weird - I just rendered my first lard yesterday & had some questions - lo & behold what comes up in my daily email!@AliOop when you render do you start with a dry or wet method? Do both create a smell or is one less smelly?
It's getting colder here and I'm worried about running my crockpot outside in 30-40F weather. Do you think the smell would carry to the house if I did it in the garage?
Good news is I should have the tallow sometime in the next week or 2. I've been preparing by organizing my chest freezer to make space and researching rendering tips and advice.
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