The issues you raise jcandle are exactly why the question of whether HOAs should even be legal. In many cases you don't even get to see the HOA bylaws until AFTER you buy your house. So you agree to the rules by default which is a form of coercion. Again, I respect your opinion but I am completely against HOAs and anyone who tries to step into my house or my life uninvited deserves whatever happens to them. The long and short for us here is when the HOA tries to enforce anything or make new rules the neighbors have the common sense and gumption to tell them where to stick it.