Ia this ricing?

[Luckyone80]

Is this ricing?

So I made a recipe today that is new to me and I used a Raspberry Patchouli FO from a seller I hadn't used before and everything went great until after I poured the batter into the mold and started working on the top, the batter started to ball up. I made this recipe twice with a different recipe inbetween the two just to make sure it was the recipe and not something I did. The 2nd different recipe turned out wonderful, just this one recipe I had never made before did this weird balling up. Is it ricing?

 

[IrishLass]

How warm did you soap the batch? I ask, because with the amount of cocoa butter, palm and shea butter in the formula, the chances of getting pseudo-trace is fairly high (especially if colder ingredients are added), unless the overall temp was kept warm enough for the hard fats to stay in melted suspension long enough for the lye to go to work on them. Those blobs that I see look like stearic chunks to me. They are fairly typical of what happens to me when I don't soap my high% hard fat formulas warm enough. For me, the sweet spot temp for such batches is when my fats are no lower than about 112F or so, and my lye is warm to the touch- about 100F. If I know I'll be adding some cold additives that will bring the temp down, I'll go even higher on the oil/fat temp, like about 120F.


IrishLass

 

[Luckyone80]

How warm did you soap the batch? I ask, because with the amount of cocoa butter, palm and shea butter in the formula, the chances of getting pseudo-trace is fairly high (especially if colder ingredients are added), unless the overall temp was kept warm enough for the hard fats to stay in melted suspension long enough for the lye to go to work on them. Those blobs that I see look like stearic chunks to me. They are fairly typical of what happens to me when I don't soap my high% hard fat formulas warm enough. For me, the sweet spot temp for such batches is when my fats are no lower than about 112F or so, and my lye is warm to the touch- about 100F. If I know I'll be adding some cold additives that will bring the temp down, I'll go even higher on the oil/fat temp, like about 120F.


IrishLass

Aww damn, I soaped at around 80-82 degrees and I added GM so thats why I soaped at such a low temp.

 

[Luckyone80]

Are the blobs dangerous, should I rebatch?

 

[Obsidian]

They should be fine, don't be in a hurry to rebatch. You'll be able to tell once you cut.

 

[Luckyone80]

As long as the inside looks good then I will keep as is b/c I don't like rebatching and the batch in the pic shown has white, pink and purple spoon swirling so it should be really pretty.

 

[IrishLass]

No- they're not dangerous, so no worries there. In my finished soap, they just look like unsightly blobs or spots, but at least they're harmless.


IrishLass

 

[Jstar]

Im not familiar with steric issues..I always soap cool..90-100 so I'll pass on that...however you say you added GM? what was the temp of the GM?...they look like little chunks of clumped milk to me..:think:

I think it will be fine but just wait and cut and zap test it..then wait a few weeks..see what happens..you can always rebatch later if needed...

Pretty tops tho..love to see it cut

 

[Luckyone80]

Im not familiar with steric issues..I always soap cool..90-100 so I'll pass on that...however you say you added GM? what was the temp of the GM?...they look like little chunks of clumped milk to me..:think:

I think it will be fine but just wait and cut and zap test it..then wait a few weeks..see what happens..you can always rebatch later if needed...

Pretty tops tho..love to see it cut

I add the GM at room temp to the oils that were at 85 degrees so don't think thats it. One batch I used GM and the other I didn't but both did the blob thing so my guess is the culprit is the use of the cocoa and shea butter and the low soaping temp.

 

[Luckyone80]

Pretty tops tho..love to see it cut

Thanks, the top would have been better, more purple and white but I messed with it too long trying to get the blobs worked out.

 

[Jstar]

I add the GM at room temp to the oils that were at 85 degrees so don't think thats it. One batch I used GM and the other I didn't but both did the blob thing so my guess is the culprit is the use of the cocoa and shea butter and the low soaping temp.

Ahh..yea that could be then..but if it is, those little clumps wont hurt you at all...just more conditioning goodness left behind on your skin..{I use raw cocoa butter on my skin at night during this cold weather..its wonderful

Once you cut it you should be able to tell more about it...if it were me and i could find one of the cut clumps, Id scratch my fingernail across it and see exactly what it was.

Who knows, you may have stumbled onto something new to do to soap..

 

[Luckyone80]

I will post pics and my findings tomorrow afternoon.

 

[Luckyone80]

So not happy with the way this one turned out, the inside is pretty but I hate the 1/2" to the top and the top. Since this soap had GM in it I did insulate to gel and the top cracked before I could get to it to stop it so the top is messed up anyway. The little blobs are just balls of soaps, no zap.

 

[Dorymae]

The soap is very pretty! If I had that problem, then cut into that soap I'd be very happy. Sometimes we have to forget what we wanted, and see things just for what they are, and your soap is beautiful. Congratulations on a hard earned victory.

 

[Jstar]

I think they are very pretty myself

 

[LBussy]

The color and the mention of raspberries makes me hungry.

I think this is a case of you not getting what you wanted so you don't like the result. Believe me I get that. I think it is very nice and the layer on top sort of mirrors/reflects the white layer on the bottom. If you had told me you meant to do that I would believe it.

 

[shunt2011]

I think they turned our very nice. I totally get how you feel though. I think we all get that way when their not what we had in our mind. Still pretty.