Several years ago, I was a new soaper and got glycerin rivers but didn't know what they were called and was googling all over the place -- and this forum popped up. And then....I entered this forum.... I said to my wife, "Honey, there is a whole sub-culture out there of soap makers! And they have very strong opinions on coconut oil and using glass containers and using the term 'moisturizing'!!" LOL. But I am so grateful. I have learned a lot on here and people are generous with their support and concrete advice -- and I have also laughed a LOT!