hot process familiar ppl i have a Q

[Jade_84]

So this is the reciepe i was thinking about doing hot process. What do you
think will happen since the cleanings # is higher than the suggested amount

Total oil weight 48
Water as percent of oil weight 38 %
Super Fat/Discount 10 %
Lye Concentration 27.209 %
Water : Lye Ratio 2.675:1
Sat : Unsat Ratio 46 : 54
Iodine 60
INS 164

Fragrance Weight 2.25 Oz
Ingredient Pounds Ounces
Water 1.14 18.24
Lye - NaOH 0.426 6.818
# √ Oil/Fat % Pounds Ounces
1 Castor Oil 15 0.45 7.2
2 Canola Oil 20 0.6 9.6
3 Coconut Oil, 1.5 24
4 Soybean Oil 15 0.45 7.2
Totals NaN 3 48
Soap Bar Quality Suggested Range Your Recipe
Hardness 29 - 54 43
Cleansing 12 - 22 34
Conditioning 44 - 69 50
Bubbly 14 - 46 47
Creamy 16 - 48 23
Iodine 41 - 70 60
INS 136 - 165 164

 

[Kansas Farm Girl]

It may be very drying to your skin. But then again, it might not. I know some make CO soap but SF it between 15-20% and love it. I tend to keep my cleansing # around 13-15 because anything higher dries me out too much. I have not tried the 100% /CO though.

 

[Jade_84]

oh i forgot to add my superfat was with castor oil

 

[VanessaP]

I make a 50% coconut and 50% olive oil soap at 10% - 12% superfat and its fine. The issue with this recipe is that with the soybean and canola you are really running the risk of this soap going rancid quickly as they are not particularly stable oils.

 

[DeeAnna]

oh i forgot to add my superfat was with castor oil

Hi, Jade -- I just want to respond to this common assumption about "superfat". Some of the extra fat left in your soap will indeed be from the castor, but not all. You cannot control which fat is the "superfat" by adding it in at trace -- the saponification reaction is only just getting started at that point. So add your fats at whatever point makes you feel good, but keep in mind that the final superfat in your soap will be a blend of all of the fats in your recipe. --DeeAnna

 

[VanessaP]

Hi, Jade -- I just want to respond to this common assumption about "superfat". Some of the extra fat left in your soap will indeed be from the castor, but not all. You cannot control which fat is the "superfat" by adding it in at trace -- the saponification reaction is only just getting started at that point. So add your fats at whatever point makes you feel good, but keep in mind that the final superfat in your soap will be a blend of all of the fats in your recipe. --DeeAnna

She's making HP. Superfat in HP can be added after the cook, leaving the oil/butter intact. I don't do that and just add all my oils up front, but I know others who make HP and will add their superfat after the cook.

ETA: But yes, in CP, trying to superfat with a specific oil isn't gonna happen because the lye is still very active and will saponify whatever oil it wants to at trace.

 

[new12soap]

I am not following your recipe, the percentages do not add up to 100? Higher cleansing can be drying, but your superfat should take care of that. I would not recommend either soybean or canola because of DOS.

In HP yes you can add your superfatting oil after the cook, but I would not recommend you use castor for that. Castor oil can sometimes be harsh or irritating as an oil, it only becomes conditioning and gentle after it is saponified. I make HP and I just put all the oils in up front and let it do its thing.

 

[DeeAnna]

She's making HP....

Wups! Missed that -- my bad!