hot+ cold process anyone?

[Jade_84]

So a coworker asked me (i have no idea why i usually do liquid soap) about what they called cold+hot process. They said that you make the soap like you normally would for Cp but then put it in your mold and stick in in the over for 4 hour on 175 f.
it sounds very me friendly, hp without all the stiring which i would love. Has anyone done this before? i would love to do this with oo since it takes forever to trace.

 

[Lindy]

CPOP (Cold Process Oven Process)

 

[sistrum]

Do a search for what Lindy says, but you still have to bring your soap to trace. Sorry, no getting out of your arm exercise.

 

[Lindy]

Oh! How did I miss that last part. Like sistrum said. You make your soap (still stirring but a stick blender is better) Once you have put it into your mould you put it into a warmed oven (preheat and then turn off) and let it sit overnight.

 

[melstan775]

I wonder if the OP means all the extra stirring that comes when you are HP and you have to keep checking it and stirring more. If so, then wouldn' the answer be yes, less stirring, because you just cold process and then put it in the oven to cook?

 

[jeremmy]

CPOP is basically cold process with a guaranteed gel phase. You prepare it exactly like Cp, than stick it in the oven for a while (the exact steps differ per person). Once its done in the oven, you cut it and set it out to cure like normal CP soap. It doesnt have the long period of stirring like HP, but it isnt ready to use right away like HP either.

 

[Jade_84]

ok i just want to be sure i get this right i still have to stir till trace and then put it in a warmed oven for X amount of hours correct ?

 

[squigglz]

I wonder if the OP means all the extra stirring that comes when you are HP and you have to keep checking it and stirring more. If so, then wouldn' the answer be yes, less stirring, because you just cold process and then put it in the oven to cook?

I do CPHP pretty much exclusively and I don't have to constantly stir it The only time I've had to was when a new recipe separated and I had to re-emulsify it with a stick blender, which only took a minute anyway.

ok i just want to be sure i get this right i still have to stir till trace and then put it in a warmed oven for X amount of hours correct ?

Yes.

 

[VanessaP]

Ok. There's two things here. There is HP, which you can do in the oven, yes. There is CPOP which is CP Oven Process, which yes, is also done in the oven. The difference is that HP is fulling cooking the soap then adding the fragrance and molding it and letting it cool down on its own. CPOP is just like making CP soap, and once you mold it, you put it in the oven at 170 degrees for one hour then turn it off and let it sit overnight. If you leave CP soap at 170 for 4 hours, it will overcook and have a funky texture to it. Even my HP in the crock pot, I only cook for about 30 minutes for a 3lb batch and about an hour for a 5lb batch.

Either way you go, you will have to achieve trace first, there is no way around that without only making MP soap.

 

[kazmi]

Don't mean to hijack this thread but it made think of a question that I had about cpop. Has anybody done it with a silcone mold? I'm not worried about silcone in the oven. I read somewhere that soap can come out funky when using this process in a silcone mold. So I've been too concerned to try it out (all my molds are silcone).

 

[judymoody]

Yes, in my experience, silicone molds are fine when using CPOP method.

 

[VanessaP]

I have used silicone molds just fine However, I have a feeling that a lot of people leave their oven on a lot longer than I do. If I soaped warmer, I leave the oven on 30 minutes at most. If I soaped cooler, I will check it after 30 minutes then decide whether to leave it on the other half hour.

 

[kazmi]

Thanks JudyM and Vanessa! I'm going to give it a try. Vanessa, you're decision to leave on or turn over the oven is based on whether the soap has set up or not?

 

[VanessaP]

Thanks JudyM and Vanessa! I'm going to give it a try. Vanessa, you're decision to leave on or turn over the oven is based on whether the soap has set up or not?

If more than 50% of it has started to gel, I turn it off. Otherwise I let it go the full hour.