goats milk and honey OO soap?

[Ann Marie]

Hi!

I wanted to make a 100% Pure Olive Oil soap with goats milk and honey as additives...would that be too soft, or would it be okay? Or should I tweek it and add palm and Olive so its harder?

Thanks for your help!

 

[dagmar88]

Hi!

I wanted to make a 100% Pure Olive Oil soap with goats milk and honey as additives...would that be too soft, or would it be okay? Or should I tweek it and add palm and Olive so its harder?

Thanks for your help!

If you want to add other oils/butters; I'd go for some coconut and castor oil.
Makes a very nice combo.
Just olive oil will be fine though (very good for sensitive skin) but it gives a bit of a slimy feel, low and dense lather and doesn't last very long.
Soaps with a high % of olive oil need a good long cure. A water discount helps speeding up trace and unmolding a bit.

Soap cool; a milk and honey combo can overheat quickly.

 

[SwiftRuby]

Personally I don't understand how anybody could even consider adding Palm Oil to their soap. There are alternatives, please for the sake of burned alive Orangutans, look at this deeply disturbing issue more deeply :eh:

 

[hoegarden]

Hi Ann, if you want a more firm soap, coconut oil is a good choice. I use CO, PO and OO for basic soap recipe. However, do take note that if you are using milk, it is better to soap at lower temperature as they heat up the mixture real fast.

 

[melstan775]

Personally I don't understand how anybody could even consider adding Palm Oil to their soap. There are alternatives, please for the sake of burned alive Orangutans, look at this deeply disturbing issue more deeply :eh:

Curious, since you don't seem to use palm, what you might suggest for hardness?

 

[dagmar88]

Personally I don't understand how anybody could even consider adding Palm Oil to their soap. There are alternatives, please for the sake of burned alive Orangutans, look at this deeply disturbing issue more deeply :eh:

That's very judgemental and the situation is way more complex.

There are no alternatives that give the same properties, aside from sustainable palm oil.
Just different formulations, that'll probably be fine for a lot of people.
But they're not what I'm looking for.

I really, really dislike this ingredient bashing in general. Most of it is marketing and people repeating things they don't fully understand anyway.
If it's not palm oil, it's soy bean, parabens, perfume, sls, silicones or petroleum.
Every ingredient had their pro's and cons.
It's up to the producer and user to decide what's acceptable to them.

 

[Birdie Wife]

That sounds like a really lovely bar . The goats milk and honey will help with lather. If you wanted to, for extra hardness, you could try some lard or tallow, or if you're looking for a vegetarian bar, maybe a little beeswax. Salt is also supposed to help. Are you going to add any fragrances?

 

[Serenity]

Sounds really nice. I made a similar bar once that I really liked but I added 20% coconut oil to improve the lather. It was a very hard bar after curing. You could add 5-10% shea or cocoa butter as well if you wanted to. That might be nice.

 

[SwiftRuby]

That's very judgemental and the situation is way more complex.

There are no alternatives that give the same properties, aside from sustainable palm oil.
Just different formulations, that'll probably be fine for a lot of people.
But they're not what I'm looking for.

I really, really dislike this ingredient bashing in general. Most of it is marketing and people repeating things they don't fully understand anyway.
If it's not palm oil, it's soy bean, parabens, perfume, sls, silicones or petroleum.
Every ingredient had their pro's and cons.
It's up to the producer and user to decide what's acceptable to them.

My comment was about my own personal beliefs and I am entitled to them, I DID NOT judge anybody thank you very much. I think you are being very selective with the facts and I will leave it at that.

 

[OHello]

What do you suggest for hardness though? If not palm oil, sustainable or otherwise, the only alternatives that I am aware of are lard and tallow (which also have ethical drawbacks for many) - if you want to avoid a using high percentage of coconut oil.

What do you like to soap with?

 

[bubbles2013]

There are many palm-free recipes out there. Castile can be hard as rock after a proper cure as well. Here are five examples:

http://www.lovinsoap.com/2012/06/palm-free-recipes-day-1/