facial cleanser scrub recipes? totally stumped

[dagmar88]

Lindy,

When I did my research on EOs for a body wrap, I found in Patricia Davis’ book "Aromatherapy: An A - Z Guide" where she said that grapefruit isn’t a photosensitizer (I think it was on page 134).

Was grapefruit EO mentioned in your course? Or have you heard this? I use grapefruit in a lot of my creams and lotions.

paillo - I'm sorry for hijacking your thread.

As far as I know,
Citrus EO's
-photosynthetic: Lime , Bergamot, Tangerine, Lemon, Sweet Orange,
-somewhat photosynthetic: (red) Mandarin
-are likely to cause sensitivities when used undiluted (duh): Neroli, Grapefruit
-do not use right before sunbathing: Petitgrain

 

[Healinya]

We should all be applying spf before going outside anyway. I have learned (from many hours of live classes and that I am still paying the student loans on) that citrus is a photosensitizer... but so is a freshly exfoliated face... and so are a lot of medications and other things... again, spf is a must!! I myself, have mixed ascorbic acid in water and applied it to my freshly steamed and exfoliated face and LOVED how 'fresh' my face felt a few days later... again - spf is a must!

Everyone's different, and everyone's skin has different sensitzers... did I mention how important spf is lol... 15 is awesome. For what it's worth.. I was not trained to be an Aromatherapist, but I was trained in skin care and other allied health modalities where essential oils were discussed from several different perspectives... If you google ingredient+photosensitivity, you'll have lots of great reading.

My opinion is that citrus/vitamin c is amazing in leave on skin products... just use them at night because sunscreen doesn't last long... and for rinse off products - I don't think the vit c cause much more sensitization, but again, SPF should always be worn (on the skin you want to keep anyway and very fair-skinned people do need to take extra caution.

If you ever want to test if the vit c is still active in your products (which it probably isn't anyway since it all just about oxidizes by the 4th time you take the cap off) is to take two slices of apple, and apply a small amount of the product to one of them... then wait and see if they brown at the same time... if the one you put product on stays white longer, then the vit c is still (somewhat) alive

Well, that's my two cents anyway.. sorry I'm a rambler

 

[carebear]

Carebear I know (we've had this discussion way too often) that you don't believe that the skin absorbs as much as it does - however if you take a look at what pharmacology is working on your would realize that this is starting to be considered the best method of delivering meds (http://www.nae.edu/Publications/Bri...centDevelopmentinNeedle-FreeDrugDelivery.aspx - http://books.google.ca/books?id=PaO...&resnum=7&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false). That would be because the skin does absorb.

um, thanks for the cheers and all, but it is only the "best" method of delivering meds if the right vehicle is involved. surely you aren't one of those folks who believes that a certain percent of anything on your skin is absorbed... else I could save myself a lot of trips to the dentist and just rub chocolate on my skin, and I'd be extremely overweight from all the lotion I've applied. Not to mention that a great deal of my physical makeup would now be cotton and (gasp) polyester...

I'm well aware that some stuff is absorbed into the skin.

We could go back and forth and back and forth on this - You imply that we already have tho I don't recall that. But that doesn't make you right.

Heck, your "source" even says that skin application is best for local delivery of an active because it minimizes systemic exposure.

SOME things are absorbed, and these can be used as vehicles in certain cases, to help actives pass through the skin - thus the transdermal patches.

Back to your topic, I'm sure you are well aware that the method of extraction of the EOs is one variable in the phototoxicity, as I'm sure you have heard of bergotaphene(sp) free EOs as well. Or perhaps not.

Where was that certification from?

 

[soapbuddy]

I don't see a preservative with the one with aloe? Is the aloe gel store bought? I see you list grapefruit seed extract, but that's not a preservative.

 

[Lindy]

thank you so much for inviting me to get back into it with you. We come from two very different sides of the fence on this topic. I am not a "right" fighter so I'm not prepared to take this further with you, but please feel free to carry on without me.....

 

[carebear]

You are very welcome, Lindye. But I think there is no need. My point's been supported quite well.

 

[Tabitha]

I am going to go ahead and lock this thread. When I have time to waste I will come back in & delete any posts or comments that are not helpful- in my opinion- to the original post. I will unlock it again at that time