Do you pasteurize your goats milk before making soap?

[Annie's]

I am curious to what others do? I always pasteurize my goats milk and then freeze it before I use it when I make soap. But Im wondering if I actually need to. I make all my soaps using the cold process, my milk/lye solution gets pretty hot and all my soaps go through the gel stage. Im wondering if the heat from all this would kill any bad bacteria so I could start cutting out my first step of pasteurizing...Please chime in and give me your thoughts..

 

[jcandleattic]

I am curious to what others do? I always pasteurize my goats milk and then freeze it before I use it when I make soap. But Im wondering if I actually need to. I make all my soaps using the cold process, my milk/lye solution gets pretty hot and all my soaps go through the gel stage. Im wondering if the heat from all this would kill any bad bacteria so I could start cutting out my first step of pasteurizing...Please chime in and give me your thoughts..

I've heard of several different people doing it both ways some do some don't. The ones that don't never seem to have any problems so I don't think it is an absolute necessary step.
I however will alway pasturize the milk before freezing it and using it in soap.
Main reason for this is we also use it in our homemade ice cream and I don't want to worry about which batch is ready for ice cream vs. which batch I use for soap...
If it weren't for that, not sure I would pasturize it, but I'm a creature of habit so I probably would just out of habit alone.
Hope this helps a little.

 

[soap25]

pasteurizing

Hi!

Not only the head, also the quite letal ph around 14 kills every bacteria (either good or bad) in your milk!

You can really cut out pasteurizing your milk for soapmaking.

 

[Annie's]

I am curious to what others do? I always pasteurize my goats milk and then freeze it before I use it when I make soap. But Im wondering if I actually need to. I make all my soaps using the cold process, my milk/lye solution gets pretty hot and all my soaps go through the gel stage. Im wondering if the heat from all this would kill any bad bacteria so I could start cutting out my first step of pasteurizing...Please chime in and give me your thoughts..

I've heard of several different people doing it both ways some do some don't. The ones that don't never seem to have any problems so I don't think it is an absolute necessary step.
I however will alway pasturize the milk before freezing it and using it in soap.
Main reason for this is we also use it in our homemade ice cream and I don't want to worry about which batch is ready for ice cream vs. which batch I use for soap...
If it weren't for that, not sure I would pasturize it, but I'm a creature of habit so I probably would just out of habit alone.
Hope this helps a little.

You make Ice cream with your Goats milk? is it good..? I own an Ice stand, we make our own Ice cream but I buy my base...
Thanx for giving your opinion on pasteurizing...I like to hear how others make their goats milk soap...

 

[Annie's]

Re: pasteurizing

Hi!

Not only the head, also the quite letal ph around 14 kills every bacteria (either good or bad) in your milk!

You can really cut out pasteurizing your milk for soapmaking.

So you never pasteurize and havent had any problems?

 

[jcandleattic]

You make Ice cream with your Goats milk? is it good..? I own an Ice stand, we make our own Ice cream but I buy my base...
Thanx for giving your opinion on pasteurizing...I like to hear how others make their goats milk soap...

Yes, I do, and yes it is.
It's actually very good, as ice cream. Can't say that I would drink it on a regular basis though. (blech)

 

[soap25]

No, no problems.

Even adding a milk product in the finished hp soap never caused a problem.

Pateurizing only kills most bacteria, the milk is not steril.

Using NaOH denaturates every substance in the milk, I have not tested it, but I am sure its steril!

 

[ilovedoxies]

I just buy my goat's milk in a can from the grocery store baking isle. :wink:


I'd love to get my hands on some fresh goat's milk.

 

[Annie's]

I just buy my goat's milk in a can from the grocery store baking isle. :wink:


I'd love to get my hands on some fresh goat's milk.

I raise goats, so milk my own...but I sometimes wonder if it would be easier just to buy it at the grocery store..haha

 

[Half Caper Farm]

Can't say that I would drink it on a regular basis though. (blech)

Why ever not? That's all we do drink. DH complains if for some reason we have to buy store milk (about once every three years :wink: )

I raise goats, so milk my own...but I sometimes wonder if it would be easier just to buy it at the grocery store..haha

Easier yes, but drinkable? You'd miss your girls - you know you would!

And to answer the original question - nope, don't pasteurize my milk for soap, drinking, cheese . . . 8)

 

[Tamera]

Why ever not? That's all we do drink. DH complains if for some reason we have to buy store milk (about once every three years :wink: )

My husband, sons and grandchildren are the same way, they can't stand milk from the store, that's why we try to milk year round.

And to answer the original question - nope, don't pasteurize my milk for soap, drinking, cheese . . . 8)

I don't pasteurize for soap or drinking either. I only pasteurize for cheese and to feed goat kids.

 

[jcandleattic]

Can't say that I would drink it on a regular basis though. (blech)

Why ever not? That's all we do drink. DH complains if for some reason we have to buy store milk (about once every three years :wink: )

Honestly, it's because I can't stand the taste of it. Especially if our goats get into the onion field (which they do all the time! LOL). NASTY... LOL

 

[HollandHomestead]

We raise our own goats and never pasteurize for soapmaking, drinking or ice cream making. Just for cheese. Never had any problems!

 

[Half Caper Farm]

Can't say that I would drink it on a regular basis though. (blech)

Why ever not? That's all we do drink. DH complains if for some reason we have to buy store milk (about once every three years :wink: )

Honestly, it's because I can't stand the taste of it. Especially if our goats get into the onion field (which they do all the time! LOL). NASTY... LOL

Then there's something wrong with a) your goats, b) your management, c) your feed! It should NOT taste "nasty". :shock: It should taste sweet and creamy - which mine does. I did have an issue a couple of years ago, tasted bad enough that I sent milk to be tested at the vet's, thinking mastitis. Came back negative, so I gave Vit B12 for a bit and the taste cleared up. Cobalt deficiency can cause that.

 

[jcandleattic]

Then there's something wrong with a) your goats, b) your management, c) your feed! It should NOT taste "nasty". :shock: It should taste sweet and creamy - which mine does. I did have an issue a couple of years ago, tasted bad enough that I sent milk to be tested at the vet's, thinking mastitis. Came back negative, so I gave Vit B12 for a bit and the taste cleared up. Cobalt deficiency can cause that.

I doubt there is anything wrong with any of that... I guess I shouldn't have said "nasty" - I just don't like it. I was raised on cow's milk, it's what I've always drank and that's what I like.

 

[Half Caper Farm]

Then there's something wrong with a) your goats, b) your management, c) your feed! It should NOT taste "nasty". :shock: It should taste sweet and creamy - which mine does. I did have an issue a couple of years ago, tasted bad enough that I sent milk to be tested at the vet's, thinking mastitis. Came back negative, so I gave Vit B12 for a bit and the taste cleared up. Cobalt deficiency can cause that.

I doubt there is anything wrong with any of that... I guess I shouldn't have said "nasty" - I just don't like it. I was raised on cow's milk, it's what I've always drank and that's what I like.

Guess I'm gunshy - I do get tired of "EWWWW, you drink GOAT'S MILK?!?! That's NASTY!!!" Me - "have you ever tried it?" "No, but I know it tastes horrible" :? :roll: :roll: Sigh.

 

[jcandleattic]

[quote="Half Caper Farm":azlm4k2n]Then there's something wrong with a) your goats, b) your management, c) your feed! It should NOT taste "nasty". :shock: It should taste sweet and creamy - which mine does. I did have an issue a couple of years ago, tasted bad enough that I sent milk to be tested at the vet's, thinking mastitis. Came back negative, so I gave Vit B12 for a bit and the taste cleared up. Cobalt deficiency can cause that.

I doubt there is anything wrong with any of that... I guess I shouldn't have said "nasty" - I just don't like it. I was raised on cow's milk, it's what I've always drank and that's what I like.

Guess I'm gunshy - I do get tired of "EWWWW, you drink GOAT'S MILK?!?! That's NASTY!!!" Me - "have you ever tried it?" "No, but I know it tastes horrible" :? :roll: :roll: Sigh.[/quote:azlm4k2n]
Oh I understand... I live in the city and work downtown, but have our goats, sheep and pigs on my uncle's farm about 5 miles up the road and people sort of freak out when they hear that my hub, children and I raise livestock. :-/ - So I get it.
And yeah, you are right, how can they KNOW it tastes horrible if they have never even tried it? SMH

 

[Annie's]

My family likes our goat milk but we never drink it, I only use it for soap. I guess out of habit of buying milk at the store. I have nigerian dwarf goats so I dont get a ton of milk anyways. Only one is in milk right now but i have a couple more that may be pregnant and if they kid this winter then I will have more milk and we probably switch to drinking it.

 

[Half Caper Farm]

Yeah, if I had to rely on the output from my Nigies, I'd be buying milk from the store too! But I have some lovely productive Saanens, and pretty soon I'll have to start making cheese to keep up with them!

I don't tell people about the meat rabbits anymore. :shock:

 

[Annie's]

I don't tell people about the meat rabbits anymore. :shock:[/quote]
haha