conditioning bars hot process

[JCsuds]

Because of my ignorance :mrgreen:
I could have easily put in 5% of the oils but I did not know . The recipe below was the soap I made not shampoo . the shampoo has almost 0 cleansing power it is more a conditioning bar this recipe below was for soap. I actually have been researching since dec. I became a member on this forum in Jan. I did not make a batch for 4 months ... I am not saying I dont have a lot to learn ( thats why I am here ) but learn best by experience .. I had small amounts of safflower 2 oz and about the same palm which were given to me I did not realise the would not be of benefit. no I am not taking this as discouragement I appreciate everyone’s input ... I actually have a couple of nice batches of soap ... I printed of my next reipe (I named it Susies soap) using percentages as you suggested for a 5 lb batch ( we cook 6 cups of rice for lunch ) which I would consider a small batch. 1/2 the people I live with would get a bar

[/QUOTE]Please tell me why you used so many oils. 7 is too many for a beginner (heck, I max out at 5 oils, and I try to stick to 4!). Not only that, but 5 of your 7 oils are less than 5% each of the total recipe. A good rule of thumb is that an oil needs to make up 5% of the total recipe for you to be able to notice its qualities in the final soap. That olive, safflower, palm, castor, and shea butter? You're not going to get anything out of them. You have coconut taking up 25% of your recipe, and that's too high for a shampoo bar (what you claim you want to make). It's on the high end for a general body bar, even. It will strip everything from hair and turn it to straw.

Please don't take this as discouragement. We really want to help you make the best soap possible. For that to happen, you really do need to stop, listen, and learn.[/QUOTE]

 

[JCsuds]

5 lb is still a massive batch for so early on, unless you are totally happy with the recipe. As it stands, your other soaps might not have even had time to cure properly so how do you know if you need to change anything?

Sure, you have lots of people to use it up, but is it not better to make smaller batches for feedback before making enough for everyone to have a full bar?

I was going to do Susies tried and true recipe above Not the ones I already made I will wait as suggested until they have cured properly With another 5 lb batch I will be able to give everone 2 half bars one of each kind and get feedback on both batches

 

[JCsuds]

susies soap

So yesterday I made the above recipe ( I am calling it Susies soap ) although I am sure you did not make up the recipe . 5 lb batch . I mixed the lye and oil at 113 degrees F and it turned out great :clap:. It did not harden as hard or fast as my first batch 122 degrees F( I thought it was 120 degrees F but my ir thermometer is 2 degrees off when I tested it on ice water . I would upload pictures but this computer is not reading my flash driver ... I will have to figure out something later . looks great and thank you all for your help/ checks and concerns James

 

[cerelife]

Also be prepared that they may not be able to use shampoo bars. I've tried several and my hair hates them. They make my hair feel terrible and my haircolor fade way too fast. Even with an ACV rinse. Some people love them some just can't use them. They make great conditioning body bars though.

I'm another one who can't use shampoo bars. I spend a small fortune at Aveda every 7 weeks for color and 'gloss' on my waist-length hair and every shampoo bar I've tried has stripped the gloss off completely and faded my color within 2 uses! I love the concept of a shampoo bar, but I guess they're just not for me.

 

[JCsuds]

HP shampoo bar success !

Well its only been a couple of weeks since I made this and I used it this morning .. small lasting bubbles ,great rich lather, my hair feels great. My wife loved it my oldest daughter said it made her hair feel funny (This evening ) but we will see after it dries in the morning . It has such a nice earthy smell rosemary ,mint , (very small amount of mint I cannot detect it ) and infused chamomile flowers .... for fragrance smells good enough to eat . Very earthy smell this is such a great recipe

6% superfat
I infused 2 oz chamomile blossoms in the oils except the shea butter (I added that in the end ) I used flat beer for the liquid /lye solution
Avocado Oil 440.00g 27.85%
Castor Oil 120.00g 7.59%
Olive Oil 600.00g 37.97%
Shea Butter (Unrefined) 120.00g 7.59%
Sunflower Seed Oil 300.00g 18.99%
6% Lye (Sodium Hydroxide) Amount 198.039g
Grams of liquid recommended 521.40g

 

[Obsidian]

Its possible your daughter is experiencing funky hair syndrome. This is caused from a build up of styling products, especially "cones" like silicone or dimethicone. These aren't easily washed away with homemade soap, this is why funky hair syndrome can last a few weeks, it takes this long to gradually wash away the build up.

A quick way to skip the funk is to use a clarifying shampoo with no oils or cones before switching to shampoo bars. I really like suave daily clarifying shampoo, its deep cleaning and will get all the nasty build up off the hair. Even though I use shampoo bars, I still clarify with the suave every two weeks or so, it keeps my hair shiny and soft.

Replacing any hair products that contain cones is recommended too. Instead of using silicone based serum for my frizzy hair, I use a few drops of almond oil or even shea butter.