? about whipped soap

[Guest]

I have been seeing several "whipped soaps" on etsy and elsewhere, and I wanted to know how the fabrication process differs between making whipped soap that solidifies into a bar like this:

http://candleandsoap.about.com/od/coldp ... edsoap.htm

versus something that looks like whipped creme like this, that can be stored in a jar and is not solid:

http://www.etsy.com/listing/69420016/wh ... t=handmade

I have found several "whipped soap" recipes but they never give a picture or say whether the soap remains as a creme or whether it is poured and solidifies like CP soap.

 

[JackiK]

The whipped soap that solidifies is made just like CP soap, except the lye solution and oils have been refrigerated before combining, then you whip them with a mixer. I've made it numerous times.

The other stuff is actually cream soap, which, I guess, has been whipped.

 

[morena_mama]

The second link is whipped soap base. You can buy from quite a few suppliers.

http://nizzymoulds.com/Whipped/index.htm
This is solid whipped soap.

The soft stuff is c ream soap. You can learn more about that here
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Cr ... roup&slk=5

Fantastic wonderful group.

 

[Relle]

From another post -

Here's my suggestion for you and EVERY NEW SOAPER - get to know the search function and also try just reading. Searching can challenging since you need to know what questions to ask, and what words are likely to work. As a new soaper, you have BUNCHES of questions, and a lot of them have been discussed before. One thing that I found enormously helpful (and entertaining, truth be told) when I started on forums was to go back in time to the beginning and just start reading. Make notes as you go. You will be amazed at the wealth of information ALREADY at your fingertips - you won't even have to wait for responses.

_________________

 

[Guest]

Thanks. I did do a search before I asked. I also googled recipes. I looked on etsy for whipped soap. I even posted some links. I just wanted to know which recipe would give which result because the term "whipped soap" is apparently used interchangeably and what is really creme soap is being called whipped soap. This place is really, really unfriendly. Every time I have asked a question or made a comment someone has had something snarkey to say in return.

 

[soapbuddy]

Thanks. I did do a search before I asked. I also googled recipes. I looked on etsy for whipped soap. I even posted some links. I just wanted to know which recipe would give which result because the term "whipped soap" is apparently used interchangeably and what is really creme soap is being called whipped soap. This place is really, really unfriendly. Every time I have asked a question or made a comment someone has had something snarkey to say in return.

There is no such thing as a perfect recipe. That's why no one will give you one. You will need to experiment yourself and see what works for you. You already got some help from the posts above, so I don't think anyone is being snarky. Whipped soap is cold process soap that's done with cold oils and sodium hydroxide. Cream soap is done with a combo of sodium and potassium hydroxide.

 

[Fragola]

Yes, whipped soap is a lot of fun (I started whipping recently, but I wouldn't know about cream soap)!

It was easiest for me to start rebatching a random piece of homemade soap, which I mixed gradually adding water. And kept adding silly amounts of water, until I got a fluffy piece of foam, which cured dry and is pretty cute actually. But more a bath bomb than soap bar.

Next thing, I simply whipped a CP soap I wanted to do anyway, without any worries about choosing the right recipe for a whipped soap (about 60% hard oils to 40% soft and a hardness of 50%).

I gave up whipping the oils separately, and simply mixer-whipped after light trace (my blender will reach trace more quickly than my mixer, this is why I gave it a blender start).

After which I have fallen into a trap which others may wish to avoid: I whipped until stiff. And thought that it may be too stiff to mold it, so I added water and whipped some more. And ended up with a super-fluffy soap containing more water than what I bargained for. Which will eventually evaporate, just it's not what I had planned in the first place.

Probably you should plan ahead how much fluffyness do you want for your soap and try to stick with it.

 

[Midnight Rowan]

Honestly, I didn't see anything snarky in Relle's response. The advice was helpful, and it was given with a reference to her own learning experience. As far as recipes go, the thing to keep in mind is that many people here sell their soap, and recipes/formulas are proprietary. If they choose to share, it's incredibly generous of them, but I don't think it's fair to expect everyone to potentially give up a formula that contributes to their income.

That being said, the link to Nizzy is a good one, because you'll probably find the most information on whipped bar soap there to be had. For cream soap, the yahoo forum linked above is the best place to look for info. They are a wonderful, invaluable community who are incredibly generous with information on a relatively obscure medium for soapcrafting. Hope that helps!

ETA: Looking at your link for the soft cream soap on Etsy, I thought it was worth mentioning that the product at this link is not handmade cream soap. It's actually a pre-made base called Foaming Bath Butter, and can be purchased in bulk from several suppliers, including this one (affiliated with a member of this forum):

http://www.newdirectionsaromatics.com/foaming-bath-butter-paraben-free-p-599.html

 

[busymakinsoap!]

We are all pretty friendly here, a lot more so than other forums (take a look around, you would be shocked by some).

google Nizzy (I dont have the link on this computer), she gives a whipped soap recipe. I use this for my cupcake icing, but I don't think I would use it for a full bar of soap - it's a bit basic for me.

I love making whipped soap (nizzy style) and find it easier than regular CP

 

[Sunny]

Thanks. I did do a search before I asked. I also googled recipes. I looked on etsy for whipped soap. I even posted some links. I just wanted to know which recipe would give which result because the term "whipped soap" is apparently used interchangeably and what is really creme soap is being called whipped soap. This place is really, really unfriendly. Every time I have asked a question or made a comment someone has had something snarkey to say in return.

She was reposting that from something that carebear said. (she mentioned that.) And I see how it's easy to take that the wrong way. Just shrug it off.

(OT ---- And while I do agree with that statement for a lot of questions that come up, people have to post new threads asking questions at some point. Otherwise a forum will die. We can't all sit around and read old posts all day. Some questions that get asked again spark new discussions and go in different directions, and I learn new things all the time. So I agree that there are some very basic questions that can easily be answered by searching, but new threads are good too.

I'm sorry, off topic, but I've wanted to say that for a while now. Mods please don't hate me.)


Whipped soap is the floaty bar soap. Cream soap is a whipped cream consistency soap that is made using koh and naoh together. There is a lot of info out there about cream soap but it's hard to find! lol. And sometimes hard to interpret. I looove cream soap.

 

[dOttY]

Well I'm glad you have posted the question. And I completely understand where you're coming from, Tiki.

I want to try doing cupcakes, and I thought to do the topping, you just piped your batter at a thicker trace. So thanks for the links regarding 'whipped soap'.

 

[shadowdancer]

I make cupcakes, and do exactly that.. I wait for emusification to occur, and then halve my mix or rather, measure it out for the cupcake molds Then I wait for the rest to get thick enough and I pipe the toppings. Admittedly I'd love to have a whipped soap on the top, it looks like awesome amounts of fun, but I don't have a good mixer

There is a neat little book by Catherine Failor, Called Making Cream Soap. I think I got it from Milky Way Molds Inc.??? ISBN 0-9656390-1-0 Im yet to give it a whirl as Im sooo busy, but it is on my Bucket List of things to do.