# unattached but happy



## booner (Mar 5, 2008)

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## Neil (Mar 5, 2008)

hello Booner.

I've never tried natural fragrances other than natural oils like tea tree. Ive also thought about making a batch of soap the way the people used to make it using Potasium hydroxide made from ashes but havent gotten around to it. If you ever accomplish making a soap with lye from ashes please post the info and photos I for one would be very interested.


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## Soapmaker Man (Mar 5, 2008)

Well for stronger natural scents you can use EO's, even put out the bucks for organic EO's.  You can buy your own steam distiller and produce your own EO's if you are really adventrous and have a big wallet, and back yard. :wink: 

Infused oils will bring a little scent to the soap, but the saponification (monster) process is such that just using infused oils does not produce a very strongly scented soap. 

Paul


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## Tabitha (Mar 5, 2008)

I am not a CPer, but dried herbs don't add any fragrnce to M&P soap, just visual & label appeal.


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## booner (Mar 6, 2008)

Soapmaker Man said:
			
		

> Well for stronger natural scents you can use EO's, even put out the bucks for organic EO's.  You can buy your own steam distiller and produce your own EO's if you are really adventrous and have a big wallet, and back yard. :wink:
> 
> Infused oils will bring a little scent to the soap, but the saponification (monster) process is such that just using infused oils does not produce a very strongly scented soap.
> 
> Paul



I may look into a steam distiller some day, but at this point I'd really like to figure out how to get the strongest fragrance just using the herbs themselves. Infused oil? Infused water? Dried? Fresh?

If I ever get really ambitious (read: wealthy) I'd also like to figure out how to press avocado and olive oils.

UPDATED 3/7/08

For those interested in making soap as traditionally as possible there are a few website (mostly geared toward aid workers in developing countries). I found this info on one site.

"FLOWERS: There are ways of gathering perfumes from flowers and leaves. The ones used here put the perfume straight into the grease. 

Pick the flowers early in the morning. Choose flowers that have a strong fragrance. 

You can either "scent" (perfume) all the grease, or only the grease you are going to use during "re-working". If you are scenting grease to be used during "re-working", double the amount of flowers used. Take all the green bits off the flowers first. 

The flowers are put into melted grease, and the mixture is heated and kept just at the boiling point for one hour. Leave to harden overnight, then re-melt slowly and strain the flowers out of the melted grease. For normal perfuming of grease, use one cup of flowers for each cup of melted grease. 

If you wish to use leaves instead of flowers, then you will need twice the number of cups of leaves than you would for flowers. With leaves, it is sometimes helpful to heat them slowly with half the number of cups of water as there are cups of leaves. Heat until the water has all gone away, then add to the grease as for flowers."


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## Pam (May 6, 2008)

Well, I haven't tried the herbs but every sort of "flower oil" should work just fine. Since I simply asked one of the many florists London has to offer he could tell me where to get Rose Oil for example. There are also other oils made of flowers which will add an additional note to your soap. Good Luck.


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## IanT (May 6, 2008)

Im in the same head as you, Id love to make everything out of my own garden supplies... (I think ill build a steam distiller with cheap chemistry stuff...real easy setup for under 100 bucks...) but i think your best bet might be to use alcohol (151 proof) to extract EO's from it, and then evaporate the alcohol, so long as you make sure ALL alcohol is gone from the remaining EO (not sure if thats possible..this is just an idea, read: Disclaimer lol....)...but that would draw the oils out of it, and once you evaporate the alcohol (being SUPER careful of course...151=easy flashpoint= FIREANDFLAMES!)... but youd be left with pure essential oil after that I think...


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