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Annmarie0407

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Help me PLEASE....I have no clue what happened. I made my Spiritual Healing Soap last night and when I opened it tonight this is what happened.

I took off the bottom part of the mold and the soap literally looked like it was bleeding. What do you think happened?

Here is my recipe. Its a 96 ounce batch
Coconut oil 40%
Olive OIl 50%
Palm OIl 10%

35 ounces water
13.56 ounces Lye

2oz Frankincense & myrrh EO.

Oh, another weird thing...when I usually make this soap, the EO turns the soap brown (which is what I want). This time, it did not....

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I can't say for sure, but my guess is that somehow the scent did not mix in well and it is oozing out. Does the oozy part smell strongly of Frank & Myrrh?


IrishLass
 
Hi, thank you for your fast reply.

I just went to double check and the ooz does not smell at all like the EO. Its a weird reddish color too.....

hmmm..this is a mystery. I was so upset when this happened tonight. I do not want to make anymore soap until I can figure out what happened.
 
Not as great of notes as I should.
Do you mean keeping notes on temp, trace time...etc

Do u think the mix could of cooled too fast during trace? I made sure the lye and oils were both at about 120 before mixing. I did notice that it traced very fast.
 
I know it sounds extreme, but I keep a spread sheet for each batch. It's not hard to keep up, but it was a pain to set up. I keep a date log of each batch of soap, cross referenced by ingredient so I know where I got it. I also keep a record of lye temps, hot and cold, room temp, weather, everything except what color shoes I'm wearing.

I know not everyone does, or even should do this, but I learned alot about the 'biz' working for a cosmetic company. That's just how they did it, and how I learned. Not the making soap, just the business end. It's probably way more tedious and tiresome than helpful. But it helps pinpoint a problem in a snap.

Also, if you're like me you buy your stuff all over the place, with my 'system' I can see where I got the stuff I like best and not have to try to remember. One more thing, as DOS can occur months later this really helps weed those suckers out!
 
Deda said:
I know not everyone does, or even should do this, but I learned alot about the 'biz' working for a cosmetic company.
I worked in a pharmacuetical lab and use many of the techniques from there. But more simple. I print out my recipe for each batch, then next to the ingredient, I write actual weight, brand name if any, where the item came from and batch # if it has one.

Digit
 
That looks toxic!!! :lol:

I had a batch do something similar recently. It was in a pvc mold. The top looked sucked in, then there was a spot on the side that looked like it imploded, & directly across from it, a huge oozing gash.

I did a tongue test on the ooze. Ouch! It was lye-heavy. Now, a few weeks later, there are crystals in the gash (which I have no intention of tongue testing!!) :lol:

I think I must've had a false trace, which might be what happened with yours. Doesn't look like it was mixed well, or separated during cure.
 
Deda,
That is a great bit of knowledge that I am so glad you gave out. I'm new to this forum and basically doing my research for soapmaking. I haven't made a batch yet since I'm being really thorough with my research so I don't go into this blindly. I'm so glad I read this post because I wouldn't have thought to do that. What else do you writ down? Not trying to be a copycat but would like to know to put in my chart also. Thanks!
Cherry
 
Thanks for the kind words, Bimmer Girl. Happy to help.

I write it all down, never know what may be useful.
 
I have a composition book. It's sort of a journal of each batch, & has been an invaluable learning tool.

Here's a list of what I do.

I date the page.
I give each batch a number, so that's at the top of the page.
I list the name of the recipe. (I keep a 3 ring binder of recipes.)
If I made any changes to the recipe, I note that.
I list all additives & their amounts.
I note what my Super Fat percent was.
I note what water discount I took, if any.
I note at what temp I mixed at - very important when trying to troubleshoot fading scents.
I note the flashpoint of my EO's/FO's if known.
I note anything that happens out of the ordinary, like riceing, fast trace, etc.
While the batch is curing, I take time to review the process, check my notes & add anything I might've missed earlier.
I check the batch during curing & make any notes - like is it ready to come out of the mold sooner than expected, etc.
I note the time when I unmold it.
I note what the log is like when I unmold - any wonkynesses, if it's sticky, or whatever, or maybe it's just the ordinary unmolding & I don't need to make a note.
If it's a new recipe, new EO/FO or color, I add a note every week as it cures. Is the scent or color morphing, is the scent fading?
At 4 weeks, I begin adding a weekly note as to how it performs.

Keeping notes is the only way I can remember, over time, just how a color or scent behaved.

Like, I now know that I can NOT take a water discount when I use Sea Moss FO. It took me several botched batches before I pinpointed the problem. Now, that tidbit is noted on the recipe as well as in the journal. It was reading back through the journal that I discovered the common element from failed batch to failed batch - the water discount. The supplier said the FO would cause riceing, but my problem was much more serious - I couldn't get the FO mixed in before it was time to get the soap into the mold. Reading the journal flipped the light switch for me.

Sometimes, there's nothing much to note. It's the new recipes, new scents or new colors that can be real gotcha's, so those are always well documented.

Some notes get transferred to the recipe sheet as !Warnings! or !Dont' try THAT again!

HPT :D
 
Mandolyn - I really should write mine or at least print it out. If my computer died I would die with it!

I'm totally tech-i-fied. I set it all up for the spreadsheets to push in a database, the database feeds ingred amounts to QB for cost tracking. BUT I still have to run every recipe through a calc. I'm currently LOVING Soapmaker, I wish I could push that info into my little access db.
 
You know.... I think you can export from Soapmaker.... I'm pretty sure I saw something on there about exporting to a spreadsheet. And if you can do that, then you could import to a database and oila! Into QuickBooks...! I'm going to have to look into that.
 
Deda said:
I'm currently LOVING Soapmaker, I wish I could push that info into my little access db.

I just downloaded the trial version of Soapmaker. I'm wanting to purchase it. I'm hoping I can keep notes in it, then print them.

I'm an IT prof, so I know too well how info can be lost forever. It takes forever to burn CD's, but large capacity drives with small physical footprints are cheap now days. I have a 16 Gig USB drive that I back up all my recipes & important info to. Memory is about $10/Gig now.

I can use the journal while I'm soaping to make notes, something I don't want to try with my laptop, though. At my age, trying to remember everything until after is not to be relied upon. :lol:
 
I just want to say the all you guys are the best in the forum! I have learned so much for the short time that I've been researching soap making. I'm so excited that the Lord saw that I went down this path to learn something new for a business. Thanks for the all the information that I can receive from all of you and what is yet to come!
Cherry
 
You're both making my head spin! I have company coming! No time for this! Now I have to go figure out how to push info from soapmaker into my own db!

I hate IT (internet technology! NOT SOAPMAKER!!!)- hate it hate it hate it. I used to work in the cage for Citibank - right down the road from kwahlne! That is in a sorta convoluted karmic way the reason I got into making soap. I needed a 'natural', useful, simple, yet quasi complicated craft to put my hands into. I left the cage, the servers, the webtrends, the tivioli nodes and all that 'stuff' behind me... Blissful - til now. Thanks ladies!

Edited to say I borrowed (lifted) DHs laptop and hooked it up to an old printer and neatly set it up in my soap room. Worked great until Mr Wonderful noticed that his precious computer was oily.
 
I just want to let everyone know that you guys are very good people. I've learned somethings that I know I haven't read from books or the net. I appreciate all the advice from the experienced soapers and even the "new" ones. Blessings to all!!!!
Cherry
 
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