WSP oils

[pgnlady]

Ok I checked out suppliers for Oils and WSP was the cheapest I could find for Palm Oil and Shea Butter... so I ordered some. I got it in today and the shea butter is almost liquid at room tempurature and the Palm oil is a yellow grainy liquid. I'm used to both being solid and white at room tempurature. What the heck???

 

[Guest]

Mine came the same way and I have used both of them with no problems. Not sure why WSP's are not solids. The cocoa butter came as a chopped up solid though.

 

[judymoody]

They might have melted in transit. My palm gets like that when it's really hot. I've never had shea turn to liquid though. Why not call them?

 

[Guest]

The shea is not a liquid. it is just really soft like a thick pudding. I love it!

 

[pgnlady]

Yes the Shea is like a really thick pudding, which I will probably only use it in my lotion recipies because of that. But for my lip balm recipes where I need the firmness I will use my other Shea butter.
As for the soaps I will try the Palm oil on a scent I'm not so thrilled with to see how it works. For one it's yellow so I'm worried about it discoloring my soap, my basic recipe turns out pretty white right now. Second I'm worried about it making a softer bar of soap because it's a liquid instead of a solid. I guess I'll just have to try it out. I'm still going to go buy and use my regular stuff from Whole Foods until then though.
I guess this teaches me to get sample sizes first

 

[Guest]

I made all of these yesterday with the palm oil and the shea from WSP. As far as them being white, I haven't had any problems with the yellowish palm color but I do add a little titanium dioxide to my oils when I want them bright white.



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[honor435]

Love that purple one, how did you color it???

 

[Guest]

The purple I used is Cosmo Martini from the Happy Hour Collection at theconservatorie.com.

I poured the purple in first and then the white on top. I then just took a spoon and stirred both colors together in the mold.

 

[pgnlady]

B & B... Wow those are fantastic!! I guess I'll give the stuff a shot then and see how it goes. Thanks for sharing.

 

[SudsyKat]

About the shea from WSP - I have always found it to be firm. Maybe they've made a change to their supplier???

Bergamot & Bubbles - I love all the pretty soaps. I was just needing some inspiration for soaping this weekend and you've given me some! Is the piped frosting on top whipped soap (like Nizzy's)???

 

[Guest]

Glad I could be inspirational help.

No it's not whipped soap. I just seperate out the amount I want to pipe and let it get to a thick pudding like consistancy then pipe away.

FYI - You don't have to use Nizzy's whipped soap recipe to make your soap float. If you want to make your soap float here's what you can do. For a 6 pound batch, at trace, add in 1 ounce of baking soda with 1 ounce of water. Mix in your oil well. The sodium bicarbonate will react with the sodium hydroxide and CO2 bubbles will form and be trapped in the soap. Viola, floating soap.

 

[SudsyKat]

What a fun idea!! I'll have to try that - with the baking soda! Does it make the soap look bubbly? I'd love to see a pic! Sorry to hijack the thread, but your soaps are so pretty, I just have to talk about them!!!

 

[Guest]

Sorry, I don's have any pics of my float soap right now. I haven't made any in awhile. But to answer your question about the bubbles, the bubbles that are created are very tiny so the soap pretty much looks like a normal batch.

 

[kelleyaynn]

Glad I could be inspirational help.

No it's not whipped soap. I just seperate out the amount I want to pipe and let it get to a thick pudding like consistancy then pipe away.

FYI - You don't have to use Nizzy's whipped soap recipe to make your soap float. If you want to make your soap float here's what you can do. For a 6 pound batch, at trace, add in 1 ounce of baking soda with 1 ounce of water. Mix in your oil well. The sodium bicarbonate will react with the sodium hydroxide and CO2 bubbles will form and be trapped in the soap. Viola, floating soap.

Very interesting. Just realize that when you do that, you end up superfatting the soap more than you originally intended, since the lye that reacts with the baking soda isn't saponifying any fats.

 

[Guest]

Glad I could be inspirational help.

No it's not whipped soap. I just seperate out the amount I want to pipe and let it get to a thick pudding like consistancy then pipe away.

FYI - You don't have to use Nizzy's whipped soap recipe to make your soap float. If you want to make your soap float here's what you can do. For a 6 pound batch, at trace, add in 1 ounce of baking soda with 1 ounce of water. Mix in your oil well. The sodium bicarbonate will react with the sodium hydroxide and CO2 bubbles will form and be trapped in the soap. Viola, floating soap.

Very interesting. Just realize that when you do that, you end up superfatting the soap more than you originally intended, since the lye that reacts with the baking soda isn't saponifying any fats.

I haven't found that to be the case. It does react witht he baking soda but does not affect the lye suponifying the oils or affecting the final product negatively.

 

[Hazel]

Ok I checked out suppliers for Oils and WSP was the cheapest I could find for Palm Oil and Shea Butter... so I ordered some. I got it in today and the shea butter is almost liquid at room tempurature and the Palm oil is a yellow grainy liquid. I'm used to both being solid and white at room tempurature. What the heck???

I ordered palm from WSP not too long ago and it was rather yellow and liquidy. I figured it was heat. I've made three batches with it and they've turned out fine. I was actually pleased that it was so liquidy. It made it very easy to stir. I can't comment on palm being white because I've never had a palm oil which was white. However, the batches have turned out mainly white (not a bright white) or a pale cream.

I think the shea could also have been affected by the heat. I know when I put a bit of shea on my skin, it liquifies almost immediately. It doesn't have a very high melt point. Or if not the heat, WSP now has a special ultra refined shea which is "softer". People have commented it's great in body butters because you don't have to melt it. They said they just whip it in a KitchenAid because it's so soft. Is it possible you got sent the wrong shea?

Bergamot & Bubbles -

Wow! Your soaps look fantastic! Thanks for the great tip about baking soda. I'm going to have to give that a try.

 

[kelleyaynn]

I haven't found that to be the case. It does react witht he baking soda but does not affect the lye suponifying the oils or affecting the final product negatively.

I missed the size of the batch the first time I read your post. That's a lot of soap, so the amount of baking soda probably isn't affecting it too much. I didn't mean it would necessarily affect the soap negatively, just that the amount of lye available to saponify the soap is decreased because any that reacts with the baking soda will not be able to react with the fats - it has already been chemically changed by the baking soda reaction. So there will be more unsaponified fat that originally intended.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the compliment Hazel and you are welcome! :wink: