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Neve

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Ok I just got into soapmaking, I kind of fell into it really, and I like it. Especially since I've been paying over $6 a bar for my vegetarian-friendly soap and it's still too drying for my skin.

My first batch turned out perfectly. Then I found a nice cheap bamboo box in Canadian Tire that I thought would make a great soap mould. I wanted to fill it to the right height so for batch 2 I made a bigger batch, and did a different recipe.

Unfortunately I decided to put the lye jug on the balcony because I didn't have a face mask for the first batch and it irritated my throat. Yes I bought a mask and had it for the second batch but I used the balcony anyway. Unfortunately I didn't realise the lye had settled and not mixed in. My soap was taking forever to trace. I saw my mistake and searched online, and used a wooden spoon and a small amount of water to dissolve the rest of the lye. After a lot of banging, bashing and swirling I managed to get it to dissolve and added it to the mix. By this time though the mix had gone kinda chunky from sitting there. It went a bit pudding-like but grainy. I started mixing again and it was going like thick whipped cream where I blended. I realized that the only way to get a normal consistency back was to add a bit more water, so I did and that worked. After a couple of minutes of blending I had a nice trace similar to my first batch. I added my FOs and poured it into the mould.

All up this saga took around 2 hours… I was in fear of burning out my new stick blender.

This is the recipe:
Olive oil 55%
Canola oil 20%
Coconut oil 25%

Total 1.3L of oil… original water percent 38% SF 5% but of course I had to add extra water to get the rest of the lye into the mix.

My FO's were eucalyptus oil and I some old lemongrass I had in the drawer.

It has hardened a little, and I have removed it from the mould and even cut it up, in the hopes that the extra air circulation will help. Small flakey bits around the edge are hard but the main blocks are still pretty squishy and there are oil drops on top.

Now I am wondering if my rather soft, oily soap will ever fully harden, and if so, how long might it take? And if it doesn't, can I use it anyway? I've been seeing references to cream soap and whipped soap. I don't really mind if it's not hard if I can put it in a pot and still use it. I sure as heck don't want to throw this much away.

And yes I'm going to stir my lye properly in future!

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Did you zap test your soap to make sure that you don't have any free lye? Very occasionally I've had some lye crust in the bottom of my lye pitcher. The one time I tried to break it up and add it to my soap, I got lye crystals in my finished soap.

Assuming it doesn't zap, I'd do one of two things: either leave it as is and wait. The water will evaporate eventually. You also used a good % of liquid oils which may contribute to a softer bar. Or you could rebatch - chop up the soap and heat it in a crockpot or in a covered pot in the oven on low heat. Stir periodically until it is all melted down and of a uniform consistency. Then back into the mold, cool and cut. It should be firmer.

If your soap did not gel, it might zap for a few days because saponification is not yet complete. But if it still zaps after a week, you should rebatch.
 
It doesn't seem to zap. I stuck a bit on my tongue a day or two ago. I can't see any lye crystals either. I did make sure it was fully dissolved before adding the extra. I hope a lye zap isn't too bad if one snuck in there. I don't have a crock pot I can use for soap. I may visit the thrift store soon.

It's now 5 days old, and still pretty squishy. I am not sure if if gelled or not. I forgot to cover it when I poured it, so I suspect not. But it's freaking hot in the condo every day this summer.

If if does eventually firm up fantastic, I just have no idea how long that might take. If doesn't, and I can still use it like a semi-solid shower gel I'd be ok with that. It smells great!
 
I think you just don't have enough hard oils, is all. If you make this recipe again, I'd just leave it in the mold a day or so more; that way you won't even notice how soft it is. But now that it's out, I agree that you can just let it sit and see how it goes along. You seem to have enough lye - so it should harden eventually.
 
ImageUploadedBySoap Making1380402382.702182.jpgIt is still really soft and squishy so I am rebatching it now. My first rebatch so I'm guessing. I didn't add anything I'm just hoping to remove the excess water.


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How do I know when it's ready? It's been in a couple of hours...
 
Usually with rebatch, once its relatively smooth you can mold it. Not sure how long you need to cook to help remove extra water, are you leaving the lid off while it cooks? You can take a small spoonful out and let it cool to see how firm it is.

Its still probably going to be really soft for quite awhile, there is a lot of extra water to evoporate. Have you tried washing with any yet?
 
I took the lid off after the first hour. I realised my temp was too high because I use Celsius and then it occurred to me that the instructions I read might have been Fahrenheit. So I turned the oven to as low as it could go and took the lid off for another 90 mins. It looked jelly- ish when I stirred it. It's now in moulds.

Yes I've been using a bar for a few days. It's soft and squishy but holding together.

I think one of the issues is I used actual eucalyptus oil not just EO. I hope the new version is usable.

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