whisky as part of a fragrance

[mistral]

Anyone try using whisky or bourbon as a component of a fragrance in hot process soap. Would the alcohol evaporate and the whisky scent remain?

I bought a whisky fragrance oil. I didn't like it, it like a complete scent and that's not what I'm looking for.

 

[jcandleattic]

The whiskey scent will not remain, even if hot processing.

 

[deighturp]

Probably not a good idea, but I like the way you think!

 

[dixiedragon]

Alcohol makes soap separate and/or seize. So perfumes, extracts (like vanilla extract) don't work in soap very well.

 

[Kamahido]

Sadly if you want to scent your soap you must either use an essential oil or a fragrance oil. Not much else survives the sodium hydroxide.

 

[SaltedFig]

Look at what the "smell" of whiskey is made up of. You might find a combination of fragrances and essential oils that gets you close to your preferred blend :mrgreen:

(a lot of work, but hey, doable, right? ...)

"The 7 major scent groups of whisky": [FONT=&quot]http://www.bonigala.com/the-7-major-scent-groups-of-whisky[/FONT]

 

[DianaMoon]

I'm glad I read this, as I was thinking of adding some homemade vanilla extract to my next batch of soap. But what about vanilla powder. I ground up the pods and still found that they it they were quite aromatic.

 

[penelopejane]

I'm glad I read this, as I was thinking of adding some homemade vanilla extract to my next batch of soap. But what about vanilla powder. I ground up the pods and still found that they it they were quite aromatic.

They will be a tiny bit scratchy. Try at 1/2 tsp ppo.
There will be no scent.

 

[dixiedragon]

I think the vanilla pods would be something added for label appeal vs actual effect in soap. I don't think you'll get much scent from it in soap.

 

[DianaMoon]

I think the vanilla pods would be something added for label appeal vs actual effect in soap. I don't think you'll get much scent from it in soap.

Then I won't do it - I want the scent. Vanilla essential oil is sooo expensive - and I don't really trust any of the fragrance oils. Do you have a recommendation?

PS Well whaddya know - https://www.soapqueen.com/bath-and-...tricks/the-truth-about-vanilla-essential-oil/

Vanilla essential oil - isn't.

I think the vanilla pods would be something added for label appeal vs actual effect in soap. I don't think you'll get much scent from it in soap.

What do you think would happen if I put the goo scraped from inside the vanilla pod?

 

[DeeAnna]

"...What do you think would happen if I put the goo scraped from inside the vanilla pod?..."

Like the others are saying -- you'd get little brown speckles in your soap. The scent won't survive.

Think about it.

An essential oil is incredibly concentrated. You need hundreds of pounds of vegetation to make a single pound of EO. Some EOs like rose require more like thousands of pounds of petals per pound of EO.

A fragrance oil is extremely concentrated too. FOs are specifically formulated to be strong enough so they can be used in diluted form.

Even with these highly concentrated chemicals, you STILL have to use an EO or FO at somewhere around 3% to 6% of the fat weight to get any kind of decent, lasting scent in soap.

So now think about vanilla extract, whiskey, vanilla bean ... does it seem reasonable that they can provide a sufficient amount of concentrated fragrance to do an acceptable job of scenting your soap?

 

[DianaMoon]

It seemed reasonable to ask. Thank you for your explanation.

 

[penelopejane]

It seemed reasonable to ask. Thank you for your explanation.

As I said before - I’ve done it. I use both pod scrapings and vanilla heap paste. You get little dots that are a bit scratchy and no scent.

 

[dibbles]

You could try Balsam Peru. It's not a true vanilla, but does have a vanilla like fragrance. Be sure to research safe usage rates as it can be a sensitizer.
https://www.camdengrey.com/essential-oils/peru-balsam.html
https://www.brambleberry.com/Balsam-Peru-Essential-Oil-P4443.aspx

 

[DianaMoon]

You could try Balsam Peru. It's not a true vanilla, but does have a vanilla like fragrance. Be sure to research safe usage rates as it can be a sensitizer.
https://www.camdengrey.com/essential-oils/peru-balsam.html
https://www.brambleberry.com/Balsam-Peru-Essential-Oil-P4443.aspx

Thanks so much - I ordered a fragrance oil. Also one for lily of the valley, the basis of my favorite perfume of all time, Diorissimo.
https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Christian-Dior/Diorissimo-224.html
I buy bottles of the old formula on Ebay. It's my one and only luxury. You'll pry my bottle of old Diorossimo out of my cold, dead fingers.

 

[penelopejane]

Thanks so much - I ordered a fragrance oil. Also one for lily of the valley, the basis of my favorite perfume of all time, Diorissimo.
https://www.fragrantica.com/perfume/Christian-Dior/Diorissimo-224.html
I buy bottles of the old formula on Ebay. It's my one and only luxury. You'll pry my bottle of old Diorossimo out of my cold, dead fingers.

I use miss Dior original. So annoying that they didn’t just come up with a new name for their new perfume.

There are heaps of vanilla FOs. There is a thread describing lots of them in the FO section. They discolour and you’ll need to find one that you think smells like vanilla. Good luck.

 

[DianaMoon]

I use miss Dior original. So annoying that they didn’t just come up with a new name for their new perfume.

There are heaps of vanilla FOs. There is a thread describing lots of them in the FO section. They discolour and you’ll need to find one that you think smells like vanilla. Good luck.

"So annoying" -- do you mean the Miss Dior Cherie?
Diorissimo had to be reformulated to conform with humane standards. The old version used civet musk. I'm not sure when it was reformed.
I have a bottle of vintage Miss Dior EdT that's about gone but I'll keep it for the bottle alone.
https://astairwaytofashion.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/2100.jpg
Sigh.

PS there was an actual Miss Dior exhibition in Paris!
https://astairwaytofashion.com/2013/11/13/the-miss-dior-exhibition-opens-in-paris/

 

[penelopejane]

"So annoying" -- do you mean the Miss Dior Cherie?
Sigh.

No it’s just labelled “Miss Dior”

https://m.myer.com.au/shop/mobile/mystore/miss-dior-541004410-1

 

[DianaMoon]

Oh. Well, I don't know as much about Miss Dior as I do about Diorissimo but I guess that they had to reformulate Miss Dior to conform to the new EU standards, as they had to reformulate Diorissimo. Virtually all of the old formulas were reformed for that reason. They are not as good. Oh well.

 

[jcandleattic]

and I don't really trust any of the fragrance oils

What do you mean by you don't trust any of the fragrance oils? Do you mean you don't like using them? Because as long as they are skin/soap safe they are safe to use in soap. (which most vanillas are)