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I think this range is new to gracefruits. I have used their regular fragrence with no problems. Their info does say 5% for soap though. I would get back to them and report that it doesn't come through in CP. Probably ok for MP and creams ect.
 
My soaps are only in testing stage, as I am new to soap making. This is way I'm trying to find the best ingredients to use in soaps.

The eo's I buy are not cheaper than these fo's. I pay between £4-12 per 10ml bottle.

I won't buy cheap as cheap almost always means fake/diluted. Iv bought cheaper oils before and been left with a bottle of cr@p lol


Iv failed so many times I'm becoming an expert
 
If you aren't looking for cheap then I would go with quality EO's if you are going "natural". Especially since you are thinking of selling at some point. In a lot of cases you get what you pay for and those extracts aren't going to work in CP. I also think you will be limiting your customer base if you only do unscented. It just depend on what direction you plan on taking your business.
 
Yes I did read that florals can cause issues! I'm just glad I actually enjoy this process of formulating the perfect recipe :)


Iv failed so many times I'm becoming an expert
 
I use strictly EOs in my soap. I don't like floral scents, so I have never used those. Citrus EOs need an anchor to stay in there. Be careful with cinnamon and peppermint EOs amounts because they really can irritate skin, even in a wash off product. I use no more than 0.3 oz PPO of these. I have had no problems with any others.

Be absolutely sure that you are ordering/purchasing EOs intended for use on the human body. Not all of them are. The ones that are not are often cheaper, and therefore you will end up with something that is either not safe or will not stick in your CP soap.
 
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yeah they do both cp, hp and m&p soaps - but i need to formulate 6 variations of a soap recipe before I even think of submitting to them for tests due to cost :( I currently only have 1 hahahaha
 
Also, Micas are not natural. They are pretty much all lab created these days. I use eo's and fo's as wekk as micas, oxides and aquamarines. Artisan Handcrafted is what I call my products.
 
Lemongrass and lavender and clove bud have stuck the longest in my soap. Remember I am new to this so long term not sure. My first soap with orange and clove bud only the clove bud made it through. I love the smell but the soap even though I used a small amount feels a little tingly to me so I can imagine someone sensitive would possibly feel an irritation. I made a pumpkin spice bar that used pumpkin, and pumpkin pie spice to help color and scent. I used honey as well. Very very little scent in it, not unpleasant and smells better than just soap. So far lemongrass has really come through on the bars I used, eucalyptus, lemongrass, orange, and a bunch of others all together as sort of a test. It has that citrus scent that I love. I would suggest you do what I do. Make a blend using several EOs then see which ones come out in the wash..In the end you will find something you like and will know what works for you. Some scent is better than no scent unless it is my double butter bar (found recipe online). It smells like white chocolate and I want to eat it LOL.
So far I have to say coloring with cocoa powder has been a great find for "natural" colorant. I have gotten all different shades depending if I CPOP or just let it cure without jelling. I like the shadings honey and milk give. I have used some clays and the activated charcoal. All the shadings are there but muted. Not vivid. I originally wanted to only use EO and "natural" colors. I find myself wanting brighter colors and can not stop sniffing my cherry vanilla and cotton candy FO ones. Do not get me wrong I also love sniffing the lavender and lemon grass. Stay true to what you are trying to do! I am going to continue the search as well. Maybe we can share what we find with everyone. Personally I have no interest in business, but a quest for knowledge definitely up for that! I will bet that we will find what many many others have found before us but at least we will know what we like.
 
I forgot the most important thing! Be absolutely sure to write down every last formula, including who you got which oils from. This will save you endless hours trying to recreate something that while it did not smell wonderful at first, cured out to be absolutely amazing.(learned this the hard way) Not every lemongrass from every distributor is going to smell the same. No matter how much people tell you otherwise.

On natural colorants, I use lots of infused oils in my soaps. Paprika and annato are my favorites. Put 1 oz(or so) of either one into a jar with 6-8 oz almond or olive oil(pomace OO works best due to light coloring), and place into a pan with a dish towel in the bottom. Add water to come at least halfway up the side. Place the lid loosely on the jar, and bring the water to a light boil, then reduce to a simmer for half an hour. Turn the heat off and let it cool right there in the pan or onto a folded towel on the counter as placing onto a cold counter can cause your jar to break. When you can handle it safely, pour the oil gently into another jar without disturbing the bottom. You don't even have to strain it.

Be sure your recipe calls for that type of liquid oil, then just substitute out the colored oil for the regular. I use anywhere between 1 oz PPO and 6 oz PPO depending on how dark I want the color. Paprika gives anywhere from a light lemon yellow to a dark brick color, depending on amount. Annato gives a light orange to a dark orange color.
 
In case anyone is thinking I am talking bad about FOs, I am not. I just have never used them, so I can't, and won't speak to proper use. So very many smart soapers here use them, and can help with it, but not me. I would hate to lead anyone to think I know anything about them.
 
I use strictly EOs in my soap. I don't like floral scents, so I have never used those. Citrus EOs need an anchor to stay in there. Be careful with cinnamon and peppermint EOs amounts because they really can irritate skin, even in a wash off product. I use no more than 0.3 oz PPO of these. I have had no problems with any others.

Be absolutely sure that you are ordering/purchasing EOs intended for use on the human body. Not all of them are. The ones that are not are often cheaper, and therefore you will end up with something that is either not safe or will not stick in your CP soap.





What do you mean by an "anchor" must be used for citrus essential oils?
 
Also, Micas are not natural. They are pretty much all lab created these days. I use eo's and fo's as wekk as micas, oxides and aquamarines. Artisan Handcrafted is what I call my products.

The mica itself is natural, and the absorption process is natural, so it depends on how they are colored. I understand there is supposed to be (or already is) a line of micas colored with natural dyes. Of course, they could be susceptible to lye degradation in CP, but I haven't seen the details.

The oxides occur in nature, but are actually made in a lab in order to eliminate the heavy metals (lead, arsentic, etc.) invariably found in the natural product. Essentially, they are different colors of rust. They make them in the lab with a naturally purified iron (heat only), with natural reagents, in a reaction that produces only natural products. There are no solvents, and the other reagents and products are either in the human body or common in food. So, they are synthetic naturals! LOL!
 

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