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So i purchased some fragrance oils which got delivered today - smelt really nice in the bottle but now iv added them to my soap batter i cant smell a thing???

my batter mix was only 400g and i used 20ml of fragrance oil????

i should be able to smell it right???
 
What was the weight of the EO? It should all be i weight for an accurate comparison - the usage rates are in % and 1ml is not always the same weight, as I am sure you know.

When did you add it in? Iäm not familiar with those oils, but they aren't usual EOs are they?
 
The weight was 20g so was actually over the recommended 5% use.

I put the fo in just before I added my colour, temp of batter was low as well, not even 40*c

These are natural fo's. Actual extracts from fruits apparently. Iv found a few companies that now sell natural fo's (they are cheaper in USA tho)


Iv failed so many times I'm becoming an expert
 
Iv emailed the company so I'm hoping for a decent explanation. 20g was plenty enough for 400g wasnt it? I did work that out ok???


Iv failed so many times I'm becoming an expert
 
Even though it specifies soaps, I'm not sure if CP would be the way to go with them they sound like something that the lye monster would easily be able to eat. I would try again but with HP and put the FO in just before you mould up.

Like TEG said, the 'lye monster' eats fragrance for lunch but no smell?
 
as soon as I added the fragrance to the batter .... nothing, no smell, not even a hint :(

Im desperately searching for NATURAL fragrance oils other than eo's :/
 
There is a reason that you read on this forum that the vast majority(if not all of us) use EOs or FOs.

I can understand perfectly that you want to try to do your own thing, and make soap your way. But doing so with fragrancing your soap is going to leave you with results that are... less than what you want.

As to the amount, had that been an EO, then that would have still been on the light side. I believe FO rates vary, but I have never used them, so I can't speak to that. You used a product I have no idea what it is, or how it was created. You should have asked the company on the front end if it could be used for soap, and how much. Caveat emptor.
 
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+ 1 to what Susie said. I understand wanting to avoid synths, but at the % used in a wash-off product, it will be making little-to-no difference to you. Unless you have specific health issues that prevent it, I would go for regular FOs. There is very likely more harm from synths in the things that you eat or drink rather than what will come from 5% of FO in something that is on your skin for moments.
 
I understand what you say but my company does not use synthetics, our ethos is pure and natural.

I just wanted to try making soaps scented naturally. EO's are just too expensive at the moment.

I may just leave all my soaps unscented :-| just make them super pretty and eye catching. I may play about with a few eo's if i can get a supplier cheap enough. :)

I will make soaps for myself and family/friends with FO's but not for my business.
 
I didn't realise that you run a company (with this being in the beginner section................)

So if you are buying in bulk and of course passing the costs on to customers, EOs aren't technically expensive to you. What did your safety assessor say about these FOs?

Bear in mind, if you are going natural, colours might also be an issue. A lot of them are factory made, as is the lye that you use, I imagine.
 
I agree with Effy. If you are trying to go natural colorants unless obtained from herbs, flowers or spices would not be considered natural. I don't think the FO's you purchased will hold up in CP. They are more extracts. But they might work in HP or other body products. Also, natural is so loosly defined anyway.
 
Natural juice extracts will not make it through saponofication. If it did, we could all use our lemons and such and would have zero need to purchase fo's or eo's. I know you want natural, and I know they state these are good in soap (what kind isn't mentioned), but I think it is quite impossible for cp soap. People that add honey to their soaps don't have a pungent honey scent, maybe a hint. Same with beer, there's a scent but it isn't overwhelming not to mention it's a huge amount of the product as beer and not a tiny amount like a fragrance. Their honey one says it would make a great addition to "creams, balms, and slaves". Soap measurements could be for mp projects only, as it didn't specify. Usage rates main page are for fragrance oils and not the gracenotes natural oils.

Fragrances, as well as everything should be measured in weight. Yes, 20 ml of water weighs about 20-21 grams of weight, but a soap maker must weigh and not use volume.

Their natural line is quite misleading on what they can work with. Nothing natural makes it through except eo's. Side note, the blueberry is 15.03 pounds for 50 ml, which is less than a 2 oz bottle. So 1.63$ to 1 British pound, and that's a whopping $24.50 in American dollars for less than 2 oz! That's not cheap at all. I can get 10x orange for 6.20$ at 2oz, 2oz cedarwood is 15.00$ pricey yes but still cheaper, and lavender 40/42 is 13.50$ for 2 oz....all from bramble berry. And best thing, they'll stick in the soap.
And finally, if you're selling (i missed that but someone else mentioned it), don't the customers absorb the extra costs??
 
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