What soapy thing have you done today?

[Chris_S]

Cough.. I have no idea what you're talking bout.. Cough

Those shavings look like that confetti soap is gonna be purty! Do it soon lol we wanna see!

And looks like you're gonna be very busy tonight.. Can't imagine yet having the time to do 3-4 batches in one night lol

I still haven't received my lye so I rearranged my soaps.. Longest curing ones up front and new ones in the back. So far I've been successful in not fondling those too much........

well iv got a bucket to mix it all in so i can easily make 3-4 batches in one go in not much longer than if im making just the one batch. Im going to revert back to my tried and tested swirl recipe not sure if ill make it tonight but i suppose i could have a play with 2 or 3 loafs then make last one white n make it a confetti soap

 

[Donee']

This requires another thread
And skin is the biggest organ in the body with absoption rates which are medically documented.
Although I hardly expected to be attacked for disagreeing with an admin (which I did not know when I disagreed) - I do expect an open discussion on this.
Hardly expecting to be attacked for having my own opinion was rather naieve because I have been on enough forums to know the mentality of having a newbie who disagrees (albeit politely) with anyone of the old crowd.
Wont copy and paste all the medical information here - will rather wait for a new thread - which I am sure one of the followers of "soap ONLY cleans" will be happy to open up.
I am sure though that all the discussions about oil combinations will be for nought considering that "soap only cleans" and "washes off".

 

[Hendejm]

Donee - I’m sorry you’ve taken offense at what we have suggested to you. I would suggest that you do a bit more research and keep an open mind while doing so. You are welcome to make any claims you want in regards to the properties/benefits of soap. In the United States and England ( and perhaps Canada, Nee Zealand, Australia), we cannot legally make the claims that you are suggesting in regards to soap and how it affects the skin. We can only say that soap cleans. This is because of scientific research that has been done on this subject.

I wholeheartedly suggest that you discover for yourself whether soap can do the things you believe they can do. Keep in mind the following however:

Every human has approx 22 sqft of skin in their body. The average bar of soap is 5 ounces. A bar of soap will last approx thru 10 washes in the shower. That equates to .5 ounce of soap per wash. So 1/2 an ounce will be used to wash your body that is comprised of 22 sqft of skin. The skin is waterproof -for it weren’t - we would drown while taking a bath or swim in a pool. Most of that 1/2 ounce of soap will wash down the drain when you shower with water (approx 7 gallons per shower) How much is left to moisturize the waterproof skin? Not much....1/16 ounce? How will 1/16 ounce leave your skin moisturized and nourished if it has so much skin to cover and so little to do it with? The best that 1/16 ounce of soap can do is to leave trace amounts of oils after it has removed dirt and body oils. This is before you dry off with a towel. The towel will probably remove any remaining oils left from your soap.

So why doesn’t your skin feel tight after using homemade soap? The ph of the soap interacts with the ph of the surface layer of skin and helps to allow your soap to wash off more completely. When your skin feels tight and dry after washing with commercial “soap” - that is the result of ph levels and the “soap” not washing fully away. Your skin won’t feel tight or dry for long because your outer layer of skin will shed (at the rate of .07 ounces per day) to allow for new skin to take its place. So even if your skin were to absorb that 1/16 ounce of soap/oils - your skin would shed it away in no time.

That is why it has been suggested that lotions/butters/oils be applied after washing. Those oils can and do stay on the skin to protect, soften, moisturize the skin. If soap has the properties you believe it has - then the lotion/skincare industry would grind to a halt. They wouldn’t be able to sell these products because soap would be taking care of all the skin problems and would render the skincare companies useless. Does this make sense?

I don’t want to tell anyone what to believe and again - please don’t take our word for it. Do your own research and do what’s right for you and your potential customers. I sincerely believe we are trying to educate and inform and in no way condescend or attack.

John

 

[Dean]

This requires another thread
And skin is the biggest organ in the body with absoption rates which are medically documented.
Although I hardly expected to be attacked for disagreeing with an admin (which I did not know when I disagreed) - I do expect an open discussion on this.
Hardly expecting to be attacked for having my own opinion was rather naieve because I have been on enough forums to know the mentality of having a newbie who disagrees (albeit politely) with anyone of the old crowd.
Wont copy and paste all the medical information here - will rather wait for a new thread - which I am sure one of the followers of "soap ONLY cleans" will be happy to open up.
I am sure though that all the discussions about oil combinations will be for nought considering that "soap only cleans" and "washes off".

Hi Donee.

After soaping and recipie testing frequently for almost a year, I have found that soap “only cleans and washes off”. However, I have a new bar curing that seems to make my hands feel very soft after initial lather test. Also, I’ve read that avocado oil soap, which I have not made, leaves a residue and doesn’ t completely wash off. So, the door on my conclusion is slightly ajar.

One should be able state their beliefs based on their soaping experiences and not feel attacked on SMF. Hang in there.

BTW...belated welcome.

 

[Susie]

This requires another thread
And skin is the biggest organ in the body with absoption rates which are medically documented.
Although I hardly expected to be attacked for disagreeing with an admin (which I did not know when I disagreed) - I do expect an open discussion on this.
Hardly expecting to be attacked for having my own opinion was rather naieve because I have been on enough forums to know the mentality of having a newbie who disagrees (albeit politely) with anyone of the old crowd.
Wont copy and paste all the medical information here - will rather wait for a new thread - which I am sure one of the followers of "soap ONLY cleans" will be happy to open up.
I am sure though that all the discussions about oil combinations will be for nought considering that "soap only cleans" and "washes off".

I am sure I speak for most people here when I say that if you have a point that you feel needs making, then you are more than welcome to open your own thread. In that thread, you may post all documentation you feel is pertinent.

No one has attacked you. Not one person. Your feelings of persecution are invalid. Disagreement does not constitute an attack. If it did, you would be guilty of what you are accusing others of. There are no victims here. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and the right to state it, unless they step over the line. No one has thus far stepped over the line.

 

[Dawni]

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Of yet another fugly dump of rebatch.

Notice my rebatches as of late are all variations of grey, owing to charcoal being my only colorant until the very recent past. This, as well as the previous ones I posted, were crumbs from a soap that has been curing since September, and no they weren't all soft oils so they should have at least hardened somewhat. The microwave gave them back to me rock hard lol

And oh, the little soaps in the back are my test pieces hehe.. A charcoal, a rice, and my recent sandalwood powder experiments.

 

[Hendejm]

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Of yet another fugly dump of rebatch.
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Notice my rebatches as of late are all variations of grey, owing to charcoal being my only colorant until the very recent past. This, as well as the previous ones I posted, were crumbs from a soap that has been curing since September, and no they weren't all soft oils so they should have at least hardened somewhat. The microwave gave them back to me rock hard lol

And oh, the little soaps in the back are my test pieces hehe.. A charcoal, a rice, and my recent sandalwood powder experiments.

I think they are cool looking!

 

[MGM]

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And oh, the little soaps in the back are my test pieces hehe.. A charcoal, a rice, and my recent sandalwood powder experiments.

Looks like this month's challenge soap to me....

 

[Chris_S]

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Notice my rebatches as of late are all variations of grey, owing to charcoal being my only colorant until the very recent past. This, as well as the previous ones I posted, were crumbs from a soap that has been curing since September, and no they weren't all soft oils so they should have at least hardened somewhat. The microwave gave them back to me rock hard lol

And oh, the little soaps in the back are my test pieces hehe.. A charcoal, a rice, and my recent sandalwood powder experiments.

Isnt the feb comp stones? they look exactly like stones!!!!! ugly and boring mwhahahaha

 

[KiwiMoose]

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Notice my rebatches as of late are all variations of grey, owing to charcoal being my only colorant until the very recent past. This, as well as the previous ones I posted, were crumbs from a soap that has been curing since September, and no they weren't all soft oils so they should have at least hardened somewhat. The microwave gave them back to me rock hard lol

And oh, the little soaps in the back are my test pieces hehe.. A charcoal, a rice, and my recent sandalwood powder experiments.

I LOVE these - they do look like stones. Very cool!

 

[Chris_S]

I LOVE these - they do look like stones. Very cool!

Yes very boring and ugly like stones

Im gunna go measure my oils out befire the rugby starts then ill sort the lye at half time so when its finished ill be able to start making or maybe earlier if we dont play well

 

[KiwiMoose]

Yes very boring and ugly like stones

Im gunna go measure my oils out befire the rugby starts then ill sort the lye at half time so when its finished ill be able to start making or maybe earlier if we dont play well

Do the British know how to play rugby then?

 

[MGM]

Donee - I’m sorry you’ve taken offense at what we have suggested to you. I would suggest that you do a bit more research and keep an open mind while doing so. You are welcome to make any claims you want in regards to the properties/benefits of soap. In the United States and England ( and perhaps Canada, Nee Zealand, Australia), we cannot legally make the claims that you are suggesting in regards to soap
John

I'm not picking a horse in this race, 'cause I just don't know, but I will point out that some big companies, who are also governed by FDA and Health Canada regulation, do make such claims:

Yardley
Softsoap
SheaMoisture Coconut Oil Bar Soap
etc etc

Also, I could argue that a soap that has the properties of cleansing without stripping away natural oils is more "moisturizing" (as in "moisture-leaving") than a soap that does strip away more oils. I'm sure German has a word for "soap that leaves behind more moisture than another one", but perhaps the paucity of the English vocabulary leads us to make linguistic elisions when describing?
I wouldn't make such claims myself, but it sure doesn't seem to be hurting doTerra's bottom line....

 

[KiwiMoose]

I'm not picking a horse in this race, 'cause I just don't know, but I will point out that some big companies, who are also governed by FDA and Health Canada regulation, do make such claims:

Yardley
Softsoap
SheaMoisture Coconut Oil Bar Soap
etc etc

Also, I could argue that a soap that has the properties of cleansing without stripping away natural oils is more "moisturizing" (as in "moisture-leaving") than a soap that does strip away more oils. I'm sure German has a word for "soap that leaves behind more moisture than another one", but perhaps the paucity of the English vocabulary leads us to make linguistic elisions when describing?
I wouldn't make such claims myself, but it sure doesn't seem to be hurting doTerra's bottom line....

And I was just thinking the other day about the great marketing claim: 1/4 moisturising cream. True or not, it's made them lot of sales.

 

[Meena]

Do the British know how to play rugby then?

Prepare for battle, if I know @Chris_S

 

[Chris_S]

Do the British know how to play rugby then?

Erm the british Started rugby league! Surly you must of heard of the wigan warriors? The most famous rugby club in the world. Sydney who?

@Meena if i was on the rugby pitch yes but not that brave lol just a big wigan warriors fan 4th year of having a season ticket now its great having a dad that will pick me up and drop me off so i can have a beer he goes near enough past my house anyways.

Dammit iv not got time befote the match to weigh out the oils nooooooooooo

 

[KiwiMoose]

For those who don't know - @Chris_S has just made his most vicious attack - Implying that I'm from Australia by mentioning Sydney. That's a low blow.

 

[Chris_S]

For those who don't know - @Chris_S has just made his most vicious attack - Implying that I'm from Australia by mentioning Sydney. That's a low blow.

Haha nope its because wigan are playing sydney in the world club challenege in a few weeks. you guys hardly have many nrl teams to choose from!

if we carry on how we started i may end up going making soap in second half

 

[Zing]

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Of yet another fugly dump of rebatch.
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Notice my rebatches as of late are all variations of grey, owing to charcoal being my only colorant until the very recent past. This, as well as the previous ones I posted, were crumbs from a soap that has been curing since September, and no they weren't all soft oils so they should have at least hardened somewhat. The microwave gave them back to me rock hard lol
.

Enter the contest, woman! They look like the perfect skipping stones. You can save them for Christmas stockings for naughty boys and girls.

For those who don't know - @Chris_S has just made his most vicious attack - Implying that I'm from Australia by mentioning Sydney. That's a low blow.

Um, who started it? I'm Team @Chris_S ....

 

[Meena]

I love you people!!!!!!!