Vitamin E

[rhonda]

If you are adding Vitamin E to a recipe, can you use the capsules? And, How do you measue them? Because I'm assuming you just put the whole capsule in.

 

[topcat]

H ronda,

If you are making MP soap you can use the capsules. I use 2 capsules per half pound (500 gram) of MP base - just snip off an end and squirt in after MP base is melted. This is if you are using it as a lovely little extra, or as an antioxidant for your recipe. (Does anyone else use a different ratio of vit e oil to base out there? )

When adding additional oils/butters to MP base you should not really exceed around 1 tablespoon per half pound, so if you want to be careful, deduct any oils/butters by the approx amount you add of the vit e oil. If you are making for example a goatsmilk and vit e soap, feel free to add up to the 1 tablespoon of vit e oil. This is probably a little on the expensive side though and you can use other oils which are high in vit e, like rice bran oil, and are much cheaper

Tanya

 

[bassgirl]

Would these same ratios apply to CP as well?

 

[topcat]

Hi bassgirl,

I don't know about vit e in CP so while you are waiting for someone more knowledgeable to jump in here, I searched this forum and found a post from 'soapmaker man' Paul which will help you out. Here is it copied below and the weblink is also below Tanya

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject:

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I use T-50 in my oils as a antioxident to prevent rencedity. It is different than the man made vitamin E in gel caps. There is several places to buy T-50, natural vitamin E, but Soapers Choice is the best and least expensive place. Here is a link;


http://www.soaperschoice.com/cgi-soaper ... 0&cart_id=

Tocopherols, Natural T-50 Vit. E ($30 per pound)
1 lb

This is cut from Camden-Grey site, another source for T-50;

Sold by weight. T-50 all natural vitamin E. With today’s concerns over the safety of synthetic ingredients, why risk your product’s success by using synthetic antioxidants? There are two classes of natural Vitamin E: tocopherols and tocotrienols. We offer you all natural low d-alpha mixed tocopherols or T-50. Tocopherols: A term used to describe the collection of all the tocopherols in Vitamin E that occur naturally in food. There are 4 types of tocopherols: d-alpha, d-beta, d-gamma and d-delta. Low d-alpha mixed tocopherols are often used to slow the onset of rancidity in fats & oils. Natural oxidants are isolated from vegetable oils and concentrated to contain a mixture of d-alpha (commonly known as Vitamin E), d-beta, d-gamma and d-delta tocopherols. T-50 is all natural, low d-alpha mixed tocopherols, has 500 mg total tocopherols, and is a brownish-red, clear, viscous oil (color may differ slightly from batch to batch, we have no control over this). When you compare prices between the gel caps commonly sold in drugstores vs. the Tocopherols pound per pound, Tocopherols are a lot less expensive to use, not to mention that you will be using all natural Vitamin E and not synthetic. At proper usage levels T-50 doesn’t contribute odor, taste or color to the end product. Tocopherols are nature’s perfect antioxidant. The optimal level of tocopherols in finished products will range from 0.01% to 0.2% of the fat or oil content. Because antioxidants can only prevent oxidation, not reverse it, it is important to add the antioxidant as early in the process as possible. Tocopherols also slows the onset of rancidity in fats & oils in your soaps & lotions. If you superfat your soaps, then Vitamin E is a must so that your soaps won’t develop a rancid scent in a few months. Tocopherols also help to protect the most vulnerable citrus essential oils. Because antioxidants can only prevent oxidation, not reverse it, it is important to add the antioxidant as early in the process as possible (by adding to oils). Recommended usage: 4 drops per one pound of oils in a recipe. Certified “Circle U” Kosher and Halal. The US FDA has generally recognized tocopherols as safe (GRAS) as a nutrient and as a preservative. It’s insoluble in water. Constituents of our T50 mixture: 50/50 natural mixed tocopherols & partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, mainly soybean oil. Do not refrigerate, store in cool place.

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http://soapmakingforum.com/forum/viewto ... ht=vitamin

 

[bassgirl]

Thanks for the info, topcat! I think I've been using somewhere in the range of 4 drops ppo, so that's good. Mine just says Vitamin E Oil from Brambleberry, so I don't know what actual kind it is. I'll have to look on their site again and see if it gives more detail.

 

[topcat]

Hi again rhonda:-

I use 2 capsules per half pound (500 gram) of MP base

I need to correct myself here..not quite up on my conversions yet!!!

Should read 2 caps per Pound (500gm). Not such a worry for a small amount of vit e, but then I went on to say oils added at 1 tablespoon per half pound and it should have been 1 TBSP PER POUND Same for the water additive :cry:

So again, 1 tablespoon PER POUND MP base for oil/butter additives, 1 tablespoon PER POUND MP base water additives :wink:

Tanya

 

[Soapmaker Man]

I don't use none of them store bought gel-cap vitamin E, but buy the T-50 from a couple suppliers. Synthetic vitamin E is not as good antioxidant as the natural T-50.
Here is a quick hint if you is using the gel-caps. Get a garlic press, place @6 gel-caps in the bottom part and squeeze the press to "pop" the gel-caps and the likkid runs into a catch cup.

Paul :wink:

 

[topcat]

Here is a quick hint if you are using the gel-caps. Get a garlic press, place @6 gel-caps in the bottom part and squeeze the press to "pop" the gel-caps and the liquid runs into a catch cup.

Paul

Excellent idea Paul! Now I won't be making sticky little messes on my kitchen bench. When I soap MP I usually make it in 1 lb batches so the gel caps are fine for this. Now that I have just started CP soaping I will definitely source the T50 - I don't want my soap to smell rancid in a few months time! Thanks

 

[ministeph]

I haven't used any vit e in my cold press.. but for scrubs and such (even ones without water in them) I was adding a few 'capsules' worth depending on the size of the batch. I switched to a more regulated T-50 vitamin e that is supposed to be more 'broad spectrum' or more effective than just the capsules, but i'm not sure how legitimate that is.. or if it reallllllyyyy makes a big difference