Vanilla non discoloring FO

[Humblegoat]

Ok, paint me foolish for thinking this might work. It didn’t turn brown, but rather orange (??). I cut a little slice and you can see the lighter color, but I’m thinking over time it will all turn. 2nd pic is the batch I made, doesn’t smell that strong. I actually put white coloring in the bar pour and the yellow doesn’t seem to be impacted. So maybe it is non discoloring as long as you are adding color?

 

[MrsZ]

Which fragrance oil did you use? Anytime I use anything high in vanillin, the color looks great at first. It takes weeks to months to discolor completely.

 

[AliOop]

My experience is that it will brown eventually unless you use a vanilla stabilizer.

 

[Humblegoat]

Which fragrance oil did you use? Anytime I use anything high in vanillin, the color looks great at first. It takes weeks to months to discolor completely.

I used Nature’s Oil from Bulk Apothecary, it is a FO. Mine is usually brown from the beginning, if you color the batter white will it combat the discoloration?

My experience is that it will brown eventually unless you use a vanilla stabilizer.

What is in the stabilizer? Why not just have it in the FO?

What is in the stabilizer? Why not just have it in the FO?

I just found info on stabilizer, too many chemicals for me, just can’t go there.

 

[MrsZ]

I used Nature’s Oil from Bulk Apothecary, it is a FO. Mine is usually brown from the beginning, if you color the batter white will it combat the discoloration?

From my experience, no. You might be able to see that you used different colors, but if your vanillin content is real high it might just turn deep brown all over.

 

[AliOop]

What is in the stabilizer? Why not just have it in the FO?

That's a good question as to why they don't just put it in the FO. Perhaps some of the "non-discoloring" vanillin FOs do exactly that; it would be interesting to find out. My best guess would be that they don't want to include the sulfates/sulfites that are used to stop the discoloration, since those can be an allergen for some folks.

 

[MrsZ]

@Humblegoat , this article looks to be useful to explain vanillin discoloration and how stabilizers work. I haven't used them myself yet, but I learned a lot from this article.

https://www.ultimateguidetosoap.com/post/thetruthaboutvanillinandvanillastabilizers

 

[AliOop]

@MrsZ thank you for resharing that - that was the very article that started our long discussion thread here, which resulted in a homemade vanilla stabilizer recipe thread, here.

 

[MrsZ]

@MrsZ thank you for resharing that - that was the very article that started our long discussion thread here, which resulted in a homemade vanilla stabilizer recipe thread, here.

Oh, I'll read that thread! Thank you!

 

[Humblegoat]

@Humblegoat , this article looks to be useful to explain vanillin discoloration and how stabilizers work. I haven't used them myself yet, but I learned a lot from this article.

https://www.ultimateguidetosoap.com/post/thetruthaboutvanillinandvanillastabilizers

Thank you, I’ll read it. I just hesitate to begin down the road of adding chemicals, etc. of course vanilla would be the #1 scent!

@Humblegoat , this article looks to be useful to explain vanillin discoloration and how stabilizers work. I haven't used them myself yet, but I learned a lot from this article.

https://www.ultimateguidetosoap.com/post/thetruthaboutvanillinandvanillastabilizers

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@Humblegoat , this article looks to be useful to explain vanillin discoloration and how stabilizers work. I haven't used them myself yet, but I learned a lot from this article.

https://www.ultimateguidetosoap.com/post/thetruthaboutvanillinandvanillastabilizers

@MrsZ, yes that was a lot of information! Just not sure it is right for me. I don’t want to put in a bunch of additional chemicals. I thing I will “embrace the brown”

 

[MrsZ]

I thing I will “embrace the brown”

That's what I've done so far as well.