The 4 Cs CP Soap

Dottie Mae · Dec 21, 2022

Good afternoon; my question: what's your thoughts on Cocoa Butter, Castor Oil, Coconut Oil and Conola oil CP Soap

here is the recipe I would like to use:

Hardness	29 - 54	42
Cleansing	12 - 22	23
Conditioning	44 - 69	53
Bubbly	14 - 46	37
Creamy	16 - 48	32
Iodine	41 - 70	57
INS	136 - 165	153

1	Coconut Oil, 76 deg	35.00	1.750	28.00	793.79
2	Canola Oil	30.00	1.500	24.00	680.39
3	Castor Oil	15.00	0.750	12.00	340.19
4	Cocoa Butter	20.00	1.000	16.00	453.59
	Totals	100.00	5.000	80.00	2,267.96

Steve85569 · Dec 21, 2022

Just me.
I'm old so it's a bit too cleansing for me.
It should make a nice soap though. Pictures or it never happened. We like pictures of soap here. :nodding:

AliOop · Dec 21, 2022

That much CO would be way too cleansing for my old skin, too, and that much castor would make a rubbery, sticky bar for me.

Sticking with those four oils, here's how I would change it up:

Cocoa butter 40
Canola 35
CO 20
Castor 5

Then add some cane sugar (keeping it with the C theme) at 1 tablespoon PPO to boost the lather. It won't show on the soap calc, but you will get nice bubbles from it. EDIT: Or you could add coconut cream.

CreativeWeirdo · Dec 21, 2022

Do you have a Superfat/Lye Discount? What if you did the same recipe with 20-35% lye dscount?

AliOop · Dec 21, 2022

That's an interesting thought to counter the harshness of high CO with a higher SF. I've never tried anything more than 20%SF and only with a 100% CO soap. Otherwise all that SF is a lather-killer and soap-scum-creator for me. Also, with all that canola in there, DOS becomes a greater risk with higher SF, too. So for the recipe I suggested, I'd probably stick with 2-3% SF. It's got plenty of conditioning and shouldn't be drying at all.

Coincidentally, Holly's Soapmaking YT channel recently featured a high cocoa-butter soap that turned out nicely for her.

Dottie Mae · Dec 21, 2022

AliOop said:
That would be way too much cleansing (CO) for my old skin, too, and that much castor would make a rubbery, sticky bar for me.

Sticking with those four oils, here's how I would change it up:

Cocoa butter 40
Canola 35
CO 20
Castor 5

Then add some cane sugar (keeping it with the C theme) at 1 tablespoon PPO to boost the lather. It won't show on the soap calc, but you will get nice bubbles from it. EDIT: Or you could add coconut cream.

Thanks so much for your input! I think I will try this, and I will definitely add pics...thanks again!

Steve85569 said:
Just me.
I'm old so it's a bit too cleansing for me.
It should make a nice soap though. Pictures or it never happened. We like pictures of soap here.

I Will reduce the coconut oil and the castor and see how it turns out...thanks!