Superfatting for General Purpose and Laundry bar

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The actual water analysis of a particular water supply, whether it be a private well or a municipal source, really depends on the specific aquifers and surface water sources being used and the subsequent processing of the water if any by the municipality or by the home owner. The nationwide or regional maps are very general and I would not count on them to give much information about specific water sources. For city water, the best information will come direct from the city water department (or talk to the city clerk in a small town). In the US, towns are required by law to make drinking water quality data publicly available.

For example, Kansas City, Missouri, uses both surface water sources (Missouri River) and wells for the city drinking water. In the winter, KC uses more well water. Well water tends to be "harder" (more calcium and magnesium) but microbiologically purer than water from surface water sources (rivers and lakes). The city does reduce the water hardness by lime treatment, but if one wants ~really~ soft water, a home water softener is required.

As another example, the deep Jordan aquifer in our area of northeastern Iowa is the aquifer is preferred by most well drillers when drilling a new water well. But many, many older home and city wells are drilled into shallower aquifers, and the water hardness, etc. can be much different than water coming from the Jordan.

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Just tested my Laundry soap and it's not cleaning properly I think I should have done 0 or 1% super fatting. But even store bought yellow laundry soap doesn't clean well I think it's because I have hard water. The best I have used is a delicates detergent from natural surfactants.
 
Just the soap in water.

I made my bar soap for laundry into a Liquid soap. 3 parts water and 1 part soap melted and it seems to be cleaning dishes very well.

I tested it again after a few days on clothes and it seems to be cleaning clothes fine now.
 
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I have hard water in my city. two days ago I wanted to clean the rag with my CO soap, it was covered with all kinds of stain. I hosed with cold water, swiped twice with the soap and used the brush to go two strokes in each direction. Guess what? It is sparkling clean. It cleans better than the most expensive carpet cleaner;))
 
I have hard water in my city. two days ago I wanted to clean the rag with my CO soap, it was covered with all kinds of stain. I hosed with cold water, swiped twice with the soap and used the brush to go two strokes in each direction. Guess what? It is sparkling clean. It cleans better than the most expensive carpet cleaner;))


Yup. I use it for darn near everything (just a bit of advise, apparently don't use it for tea stains (that tannin again...reacts with the alkali soap and sets the stain.)
 
Think I found the perfect delicates laundry soap 50% Tallow 50% Coconut oil 0% super fat. I made it and re batched into cream soap. Sane ingredients for Zote a Mexican hand wash soap.
 
Please help. The problem is that 50% Coconut / 50% Tallow 0% superfat does not clean dishes properly.

I tried this formula from Prairie Homestead.

http://www.theprairiehomestead.com/2014/01/homemade-liquid-dish-soap.html

  • 3 cups water
  • 2 tablespoons grated bar soap– I used my homemade tallow soap (it’s a very basic soap–nothing fancy.
  • 1/4 teaspoon washing soda
  • 1 teaspoon vegetable glycerin
  • 20-50 drops essential oils — possible combination ideas below
Does not cut heavy grease like cream, cold animal fats. Any ideas please.
 
Aye - I'm wondering how the glycerin helps to clean dishes?

Exactly. The lengths people go to to avoid making liquid soap from KOH is amazing. They must not know how easy it is if you have experience making HP. AND no more neutralizing, or even cooking for 3 hours if you choose not to. Good thing we have that liquid and cream soap forum, huh?
 
The recipe calls for a mere 2 TBL grated soap in a whole 3 cups of water. Hmmm. That's very roughly a 1-to-24 dilution.

How much of this concoction do you actually use in your dishwater -- a squirt or two? Or the whole amount?

If you determined to use bar soap to wash greasy dishes, so be it. Just be sure to use enough soap to actually do some good. And use very warm water to solubilize that tallow soap properly and soften the grease on the dishes.

I vote with Susie, however. A good LS with its naturally high solubility ... and enough soap in the dishwater to properly do the job ... is the better way to go.
 
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I'm almost done with my liquid soap I made a long time ago. I can't wait to try a liquid, 0% superfat, coconut oil soap for dishes and especially laundry.
 
Exactly. The lengths people go to to avoid making liquid soap from KOH is amazing. They must not know how easy it is if you have experience making HP. AND no more neutralizing, or even cooking for 3 hours if you choose not to. Good thing we have that liquid and cream soap forum, huh?

Understandable, one KOH is difficult to obtain particular where I live. Two liquid soap seems challenging compared to CP soap.
 
I thought about the availability issue after I wrote that. Sorry about that.

As for the difficulty, if you can make HP bar soap, you can make liquid soap. It is just not that much more difficult. I get mine to trace, which for liquid soap is a paste consistency, and turn off the crock pot, wrap it with a beach towel, and walk away for 6 or more hours. Then I start dilution. It is so easy.
 
What do you mean? I wash by hand, one or two squirts.

I have yet to find a workable formula, I have been tweaking a formula 1 cup water, 1 TBS soap, 1 TBS washing soda, 1 tsp glycerin.

That cleans ok except for tough grease like heavy cream and animal fats.

I tried again to add TBS of liquid soap Dr Bronners, and 1 tbs of liquid natural laundry surfactants to all previous ingredients. That does clean heavy grease but I still have a greasy film. So I am giving up for now. Looking for a cheap supplier of KOH in Sydney now.
 
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