reasons for soap darkening/color changes

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JLem

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I know that saponification is a chemical process and that all the various ingredients used in various recipes add complexity to the issue, but are there any general guidelines about what sort of color changes to expect? Are there there known chemical reactions that can be referenced? Or known ingredients that cause particular color changes?

I ask because while all of my previous batches (all 4 of them) lightened in color, my latest batch severely darkened - in fact, if I hadn't made the soap myself I'm not sure I would believed it was the same batch. I will say too that the residual soap left over in my mixing container, which I let sit overnight before cleaning up, did not darken at all...in fact it lightened like I thought the whole batch would (to the color of the thin layer seen in the cut bars below). I assume this is a temperature thing...but I never would have thought the difference could be so drastic!

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If I remember correctly, you used herbal infusions and tea in this batch? Often herbs will turn brownish or dark in CP. Gelling soap will also darken it a bit and intensify the color change of herbs which is why the batter left in your bowl stayed light, it didn't gel.
 
Yes, I did use an herbal tea (lemon balm). I figured it was probably that...again, I just am shocked by how drastic the difference is between the gelled and non-gelled soap.

Guess I can now say for certain that lemon balm tea turns gelled soap purple-y brown...even with the addition of green clay :)
 
More things than not will make soap turn brown. Embrace the brown. Brown, brown, brown. Lots of brown soap. Darn that lye!
 
More things than not will make soap turn brown. Embrace the brown. Brown, brown, brown. Lots of brown soap. Darn that lye!

Oh, I have no problem with the brown color...just really really surprised given how it started.

(well, maybe I am a little disappointed I don't have the green soap I thought I was going to have...but I can try again without the herbal tea!)
 
Oh, I have no problem with the brown color...just really really surprised given how it started.

(well, maybe I am a little disappointed I don't have the green soap I thought I was going to have...but I can try again without the herbal tea!)

In my early days of soapmaking, I tried using some pomegranate tea, thinking that the soap would be a lovely pink color. I'm sure you know what I ended up with.....yep, brown.

I think the lye may be trying to teach us to pay attention to the qualities of the soap itself, rather than how it looks. And so it gives us brown. Gee, thanks. lol
 
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