Psoriasis and coconut oil allergy

[xoticsoaps]

I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned, but babassu oil is a great substitute for coconut oil.

 

[The Efficacious Gentleman]

Alice, think of it from our position - if I tell you that oil x should be okay, you use it and then your client/quasi daughter has a terrible reaction to it then at the very least I feel terrible for having suggested it. At worst, YOU resent me for having suggested it and decide to sue.

That's why a lot of people are stepping away and saying 'hey, get some experts in'

A doctor is not just a gp. Consult a doctor can also mean go to a allergist and she what she is and isn't allergic to.

If the responses don't become more civil I think it'll have to be closed, ladies and gents.

 

[girlishcharm2004]

Someone had mentioned, "let the doctor be responsible." I would like to point out that the doctor will never be responsible. The doctor isn't the one who has to live the rest of their life with whatever the consequences are -- the client will.

Regardless of whom offers the solution to this client, the client makes the ultimate decision if she's willing to take the risk and live with the consequence. It's part of taking responsibility for our own actions. There is nothing inherently wrong with offering advice or a solution.

That is... I'm assuming the original poster isn't strapping this young girl down and washing her hair by force.

 

[JustBeachy]

Someone had mentioned, "let the doctor be responsible." I would like to point out that the doctor will never be responsible. The doctor isn't the one who has to live the rest of their life with whatever the consequences are -- the client will.

Regardless of whom offers the solution to this client, the client makes the ultimate decision if she's willing to take the risk and live with the consequence. It's part of taking responsibility for our own actions. There is nothing inherently wrong with offering advice or a solution.

That is... I'm assuming the original poster isn't strapping this young girl down and washing her hair by force.

Well, in theory that is true, the patient has the last word. Yet if the doctors never had to take responsibility there would be no need for malpractice insurance.

My personal take, is I'd rather the Doc's MP insurance handle the payout rather than my stock portfolio. I'm just gonna refrain from offering any medical advice. Not saying you're wrong. Just my opinion.

BTW, I hate going to the doc for anything. My sister in law is a doctor and she's always giving me grief for not going in to have things checked. I always tell her if it doesn't get better in the next couple of years, I'll give you a call. So I'm not really that big on docs either. But sometimes, it's just prudent.

 

[girlishcharm2004]

Well, in theory that is true, the patient has the last word. Yet if the doctors never had to take responsibility there would be no need for malpractice insurance.

Well, responsibility for malpractice is a little different, but I see where you're going with that. However, I do stand firm that it's the client who has to live with the consequences, and it would be wise of her take such responsibility.

My personal take, is I'd rather the Doc's MP insurance handle the payout rather than my stock portfolio. I'm just gonna refrain from offering any medical advice. Not saying you're wrong. Just my opinion.

You cannot be sued for the advice you give. You can give all the advice you want. You can't be sued if someone foolishly tried any of it.

http://www.cklplawfirm.com/blog/2014/05/4-basic-parts-of-a-medical-malpractice-claim.shtml

BTW, I hate going to the doc for anything. My sister in law is a doctor and she's always giving me grief for not going in to have things checked. I always tell her if it doesn't get better in the next couple of years, I'll give you a call. So I'm not really that big on docs either. But sometimes, it's just prudent.

My doctor loves me for that very reason. She told me she knows it's absolutely serious if I make an appointment.

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[new12soap]

You cannot be sued for the advice you give. You can give all the advice you want. You can't be sued if someone foolishly tried any of it.

http://www.cklplawfirm.com/blog/2014/05/4-basic-parts-of-a-medical-malpractice-claim.shtml

Yes, you can. That link specifically applies to a medical malpractice claim. You cannot sue a doctor for medical malpractice because of something you read on the internet, but you can certainly sue someone for offering medical advice without a license to practice medicine.

Whether the claim went anywhere or not, you would still have to hire an attorney and go through all the time and stress and expense to get it dismissed. Not worth it, and in most places if you really were offering medical advice without a license to practice, and that advice caused harm to someone, that can actually result in criminal charges.

If I told you my doctor said such-and-such, and you did it and it didn't work and you were harmed by it, you could not sue my doctor. If I said you should do such-and-such, and it didn't work at best or harmed someone at worst, you could sue ME. Anyone can file a lawsuit at any time for pretty much anything. Frivolous? Sure, but that doesn't stop me from having to be the one to deal with it.

 

[JustBeachy]

You cannot be sued for the advice you give. You can give all the advice you want. You can't be sued if someone foolishly tried any of it.

http://www.cklplawfirm.com/blog/2014/05/4-basic-parts-of-a-medical-malpractice-claim.shtml

My doctor loves me for that very reason. She told me she knows it's absolutely serious if I make an appointment.

Oh I agree it would be next to impossible to lose a lawsuit, based on just giving someone advice. In today's litigious society,however, frivolous lawsuits get filed everyday. I'd still have to pay my attorney to get them laughed out of court. I can understand peoples decision to err on the side of caution.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only hard headed "ah, it'll go away" person out there.

Seems like we were thinking and typing alike there new12soap. haha

 

[girlishcharm2004]

Yes, you can. That link specifically applies to a medical malpractice claim. You cannot sue a doctor for medical malpractice because of something you read on the internet, but you can certainly sue someone for offering medical advice without a license to practice medicine.

I must have misread that. I didn't perceive it to mean that a person was randomly choosing a doctor to sue because of the information they read on the internet, but rather they were suing the non-doctor for free advice.

Yes, there are a lot of frivolous lawsuits out there! Anyone can take out a proceeding for anything. However, it comes back to the 4 elements of negligence.

 

[Susie]

I promised myself I would stay out of this forum, but I have to correct you on one point.

I have a state issued license to be a Registered Nurse. This comes with a specific set of rules of what I can and can't do. One of those things is that I can't practice medicine without a license. (And there are several people in this forum with the same or similar restrictions.) Telling someone what to do for a medical condition(other than "go see a doctor") is practicing medicine without a license.

 

[JustBeachy]

I have an idea. Why don't we all agree there are points for both positions. Everyone choose what's right for them and agree that we just follow our own ideals/opinions and accept that we don't have to agree on this point. It's a topic that's not going to be agreed upon, no matter how much we discuss it, so it's probably better that we don't discuss it.

Let's talk about soap!!

 

[marilynmac]

There are plenty of people on the internet eager to give free medical advice, and even sell you stuff! This isn't one of those places, this is about making soap.

 

[jblaney]

Both of my parents have psoriasis and both have it on their scalp. I told my Mom about Free and Clear Shampoo and Conditioner since it's what I use. It has helped them both immensely. I use it since any other shampoo and conditioner made my face break out. I tried for 15 years to figure out what it was. Changed everything before trying that and that's all I use now. Not sure if it has coconut oil in it, but here are the ingredients below. They sell it on Amazon and for $20 you can get one of each.


Ingredients
Purified Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Dicetyldimonium Chloride, Propylene Glycol, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Ceteareth 20, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Potassium Sorbate, Panthenol, Cirtric Acid