Please help in Palmolien and canola oil recipe

[fnddoctor]

I am a beginner in Cp soap making
Now I am planning to make a cp soap.
My available oil s.
palm olien, Canola, coconut oil, castor oil and rice Bran oil.
Can any one make me some perfect, moisturizing and nourishing recipe from these oils?
Thanks in advance

 

[Ekuzo]

If this is your first time making, my advice would be to keep it as simple as possible. If you have access to olive oil, try combining it with coconut and palm (with each of the 3 at around the same %) and see how you like it. Then take it from there and change whatever you don't like - in the meantime you'll get more knowledge on the soap qualities and what they mean, you'll know the cause and the effect to a certain extent.

If the canola you have is of the high oleic type, you can use that instead of olive oil - but you'll have to check to be sure. If there's high oleic sunflower oil around you, you can use that too (instead of the olive oil, that is).

I see people on the forum like to use rice bran as substitute for olive, even at high % - but it's too high in linoleic fatty acid for my taste. Check the label for the monounsaturated/polyunsaturated ratio to see if it can successfully be used as olive oil substitute or not.

Castor oil at low % is good, but keep it simple the first time - later you can add it in your recipe as well and see how you like it. Unlike the other 3 oils I mentioned in the first paragraph, castor oil is not a necessity (while the other 3, arguably, are).

Don't expect the soap to have moisturizing or nourishing properties. Usually the difference you'll notice is that some soap can clean more 'aggressively' than others, but it doesn't give you the feeling from using balm or lotion - it's purpose is to cleanse after all.

HTH and good luck!

 

[artemis]

... and, if you are a beginner, also stick to small batches.

 

[Ford]

Hi, basic Trinity recipezee....
33% olive oil, 33% palm oil, 33% coconut oil
You could sub canola or rice bran, or split the two. For the olive oil. Using what's on hand. Is a good way to start. Any access to butters, Cocoa, Shae, Kokum? If you add castor or a butter or both. Take from the coconut oil first.

 

[fnddoctor]

If this is your first time making, my advice would be to keep it as simple as possible. If you have access to olive oil, try combining it with coconut and palm (with each of the 3 at around the same %) and see how you like it. Then take it from there and change whatever you don't like - in the meantime you'll get more knowledge on the soap qualities and what they mean, you'll know the cause and the effect to a certain extent.

If the canola you have is of the high oleic type, you can use that instead of olive oil - but you'll have to check to be sure. If there's high oleic sunflower oil around you, you can use that too (instead of the olive oil, that is).

I see people on the forum like to use rice bran as substitute for olive, even at high % - but it's too high in linoleic fatty acid for my taste. Check the label for the monounsaturated/polyunsaturated ratio to see if it can successfully be used as olive oil substitute or not.

Castor oil at low % is good, but keep it simple the first time - later you can add it in your recipe as well and see how you like it. Unlike the other 3 oils I mentioned in the first paragraph, castor oil is not a necessity (while the other 3, arguably, are).

Don't expect the soap to have moisturizing or nourishing properties. Usually the difference you'll notice is that some soap can clean more 'aggressively' than others, but it doesn't give you the feeling from using balm or lotion - it's purpose is to cleanse after all.

HTH and good luck!

If this is your first time making, my advice would be to keep it as simple as possible. If you have access to olive oil, try combining it with coconut and palm (with each of the 3 at around the same %) and see how you like it. Then take it from there and change whatever you don't like - in the meantime you'll get more knowledge on the soap qualities and what they mean, you'll know the cause and the effect to a certain extent.

If the canola you have is of the high oleic type, you can use that instead of olive oil - but you'll have to check to be sure. If there's high oleic sunflower oil around you, you can use that too (instead of the olive oil, that is).

I see people on the forum like to use rice bran as substitute for olive, even at high % - but it's too high in linoleic fatty acid for my taste. Check the label for the monounsaturated/polyunsaturated ratio to see if it can successfully be used as olive oil substitute or not.

Castor oil at low % is good, but keep it simple the first time - later you can add it in your recipe as well and see how you like it. Unlike the other 3 oils I mentioned in the first paragraph, castor oil is not a necessity (while the other 3, arguably, are).

Don't expect the soap to have moisturizing or nourishing properties. Usually the difference you'll notice is that some soap can clean more 'aggressively' than others, but it doesn't give you the feeling from using balm or lotion - it's purpose is to cleanse after all.

HTH and good luck!

Olive is too costly that's why I am not able to use olive . Any suggestions for a recipe from my given oils

Thanks

 

[DeeAnna]

...palm olien, Canola, coconut oil, castor oil and rice Bran oil...
...perfect, moisturizing and nourishing recipe from these oils?...

There is no such thing as a perfect soap. What is nice for you might not be for me. And vice versa.

Also the five fats you listed will require more compromises than I'd prefer. You won't get a soap with an ideal blend of these qualities -- abundant lather, physically hard, long lasting in the bath, and also mild to the skin.

If you want something that moisturizes the skin, you won't get good cleaning. If you want cleaning, you can't get good moisturizing. Let soap do what it does best -- cleaning -- and depend on a lotion or other leave-on product to do the moisturizing.

And soap does not "nourish" the skin, no matter what the internet bloggers say.

So getting back to your first question, of the five fats you have, here's a blend of fats I would suggest:

5% castor oil
15-20% coconut oil
50-65% palm olein
with the rest being canola or rice bran. I personally would keep the total % of these two fats no higher than about 20%

If your skin tends to be dry or sensitive, use the lower % of coconut. If you like a "squeaky clean" skin, then use the higher %.

Based on these fats, the soap will be more soluble in water and thus it will not last as long in the bath. If you use a higher % of palm olein, it's more likely the soap will somewhat be longer lived.

Keep your superfat on the lower side -- no more than 5%.

Use 33% lye concentration to start with.

Learn to use a soap recipe c@lculator to get the correct weights.

 

[Relle]

You can go to Hollys soapmaking and she supplies recipes at the end of her videos, usually with a lot of the same oils, if there is one not the same you could substitute one as long as you run the recipe through a soap calculator.

 

[fnddoctor]

There is no such thing as a perfect soap. What is nice for you might not be for me. And vice versa.

Also the five fats you listed will require more compromises than I'd prefer. You won't get a soap with an ideal blend of these qualities -- abundant lather, physically hard, long lasting in the bath, and also mild to the skin.

If you want something that moisturizes the skin, you won't get good cleaning. If you want cleaning, you can't get good moisturizing. Let soap do what it does best -- cleaning -- and depend on a lotion or other leave-on product to do the moisturizing.

And soap does not "nourish" the skin, no matter what the internet bloggers say.

So getting back to your first question, of the five fats you have, here's a blend of fats I would suggest:

5% castor oil
15-20% coconut oil
50-65% palm olein
with the rest being canola or rice bran. I personally would keep the total % of these two fats no higher than about 20%

If your skin tends to be dry or sensitive, use the lower % of coconut. If you like a "squeaky clean" skin, then use the higher %.

Based on these fats, the soap will be more soluble in water and thus it will not last as long in the bath. If you use a higher % of palm olein, it's more likely the soap will somewhat be longer lived.

Keep your superfat on the lower side -- no more than 5%.

Use 33% lye concentration to start with.

Learn to use a soap recipe c@lculator to get the correct weights.

Thanks
Please can you explain why using 33% lye concentration?
And can palm oil or palm olien soap make skin black?
Like I heard from some one that using palm olien or palm oil on hand or face they make them black..

Thank again

 

[artemis]

And can palm oil or palm olien soap make skin black?

Thank again

No. Palm oil will not affect your skin color.

If you use red palm oil, it will make your soap yellow/orange and may tint your lather. Some say it can stain a wash cloth, so I suppose it's possible that red palm might temporarily stain your skin. However, I never had either palm or red palm stain my skin.

 

[KiwiMoose]

Can you get palm (solid at room temperature) instead of Palm olein ( the liquid fractions of palm oil)? It would be better for soap than palm olein.

 

[Ford]

Hi,
taken from info posted so far....

Palm olien 60%
Coconut oil 20%
Rice Bran oil 15%
Castor oil 5%
33% lye concentration.
3% super fat

Run this thru a calculator. To get your quantities. Start small, as suggested. 500 grams / 16 ounces is a good place to star.

Good Luck.......

 

[DeeAnna]

...why using 33% lye concentration?...

It's a lye concentration that works well for many soap recipes. There is no magic to 33% lye concentration, however. If you want to use a different setting, that's fine too.