Any one try this? What percentage of PT to use? Am I crazy for even thinking about it? I imagine a seized mess but I bet the bars would be really nice.
pine tar salt bars?
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dixiedragon
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Interesting idea! Maybe HP, though? My 25% pine tar bars are very soft - they sat in the attack in their orange juice box molds for at least 2 years before I got around to unmolding and slicing. But the salt would harden them up.
Wow, I make a 20% pin tar and they harden enough to cut within a day. They are softer then my other soaps but cure out hard in a few weeks.
I could do HP but I think I'll try CP first using 20% PT. Might get around to it later today, have to finish cleaning the fish tanks first.
I could do HP but I think I'll try CP first using 20% PT. Might get around to it later today, have to finish cleaning the fish tanks first.
Please do keep us posted on this.
Well, that was exciting. I knew PT would accelerate, especially at 20%so I mixed the salt into the oils before adding the lye so I could move fast and get it all mixed together. Added the lye solution (100% aloe juice), hand stirred and all looked well so I used the SB for maybe 10 seconds before it started getting thick. By the time I removed the SB and got it set on the counter, the batter was solid as a rock.
Using the SB was stupid, I should have just hand stirred, it probably would have been fine. I wrapped the soaping bowl in a towel hoping it would gel enough to thin out so I could get it in a mold. Sure enough, it gelled fast and hot, within 5 minutes I was able to pour it into a slab mold.
Its lumpy, looks a lot like browny batter but its in the mold! Now to watch it close so I can get it out and cut in time. Lumpy pics in awhile.
Using the SB was stupid, I should have just hand stirred, it probably would have been fine. I wrapped the soaping bowl in a towel hoping it would gel enough to thin out so I could get it in a mold. Sure enough, it gelled fast and hot, within 5 minutes I was able to pour it into a slab mold.
Its lumpy, looks a lot like browny batter but its in the mold! Now to watch it close so I can get it out and cut in time. Lumpy pics in awhile.
interesting idea. Glad the gel allowed you to get it in the mold. I wonder how it would react with a brine solution for the lye water.
Carol
Carol
Brine bar would probably behave a bit better but I would still hand stir it in. Pine tar is just bad about causing acceleration, combined with the salt it was just too much. I would make this recipe again though, it finicky but doable.
dixiedragon
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I like to stir with a paint stirring from Home Depot. That way I can throw it away vs having to try to wash a spoon clean.
I used a Popsicle stick but a paint stick would have been much better. Ugly pics lol. Cross your fingers I can get the stuff cut, its still hot as all get out.
Wow, that really does look like a pan of fudge-y brownies!
Yeah, it does. Too bad it doesn't smell like brownies, or better, taste like them lol. I was able to cut just a few minutes after my last post, got a bit of crumbles but not bad at all.
No it doesn't, smells like burnt rubber and oranges:sick:
No it doesn't, smells like burnt rubber and oranges:sick:
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You are brave! Kudos for even trying that one. You'll have to let us know how it is when you try it out.
Eh, there isn't anything I'm not willing to try. Most any mistake can be fixed one way or the other. I used orange EO in these, I didn't measure but its probably around .50 oz PPO. The PT scent is almost non existent at this point, the orange cover it really nicely. I know the orange will never survive a long cure but at least is covered the stink.
I did a quick test wash with the crumbles. It lathered just fine, slightly brown tinted but not near as bad as coffee soap. It leaves a weird, sticky residue on the skin but once fully dry, the sticky goes away. Hopefully it will get better with a cure. If I did a repeat, I would use less PT, see if that helps with the sticky.
I did a quick test wash with the crumbles. It lathered just fine, slightly brown tinted but not near as bad as coffee soap. It leaves a weird, sticky residue on the skin but once fully dry, the sticky goes away. Hopefully it will get better with a cure. If I did a repeat, I would use less PT, see if that helps with the sticky.
I have made pine tar soaps with a salt brine and they turned out well.
