Pic request of bubbles

[Obsidian]

I was wondering if anyone has pictures of bubbles/lather of soap with different bubble numbers? I know how much bubble I like but I don't know what number on the soapcalc that corresponds to it.

 

[onugs]

Great question!

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[Rosnasharn Farm]

Dont the bubbles numbers change depending on what oil you click on....for instance Coconut oil bubble number 67 which means LOTS of bubbles. Sweet almond oil .... 0 no bubbles. So as long as the soap has Coconut oil in it you will get lots of bubbles. Is this what you mean?

 

[Obsidian]

Thats kinda what I mean but there is more to it. Say I make a recipe with 14 for bubbles then another with 25 for bubbles, I would like to see what bubbles for those numbers look like before I actually make the soap.

I don't know what number I like and I've not made enough soap to really compare mine. I'm trying to limit coconut oil use, would be helpful to know the lowest numbers I wold be happy with so I can adjust my recipes.

 

[Rosnasharn Farm]

I use coconut oil and Sustainable Palm oil in all my recipes and get lots of bubbles...I hate soap with hardly any bubbles

 

[savonierre]

I think it is hard to figure that out unless you keep good notes, I take the numbers on soapcalc and SM3 with a grain of salt. Do you add sugar ? It took me 2 years to get the bubbles I wanted that turned into a great lather..

 

[Obsidian]

I added sugar to the batch I made today but I don't know if it was enough. I added 1 tbs for 2lb of oil, the recipe has 1lb of lard and it's not very bubbly.

 

[heartsong]

just a thought...I think bubbles also depends on if you have soft or hard water, too...we have hard water where we live & I get a nice creamy lather, but when I travel & wash in softer water my bars are waaaay more bubbly and oodles of lather.

 

[dagmar88]

As said before, dissecting each property does not work.
They all affect the others and should be seen as a whole.
Two different recipes with the same bubbly numbers can very well look nothing alike, even when you don't take water hardness, cure time and additives in account.


:wink: The only way to figure out what you like is by testing, testing and more testing.

 

[sistrum]

I agree with Dagmar and others, the only way for you to find out is to do testing. To many things can effect bubbles. The other oils and additives in the soap, the superfat, the process you used to make it, the amount of water you used, the amount of water in your soap when you tested, your water hardness and one very important fact is the way you wash your hands when you test for bubbles. Like the water temp, amount of water and how much air you trap when turning the bar.
And besides, if you really want answers you need to pay attention to the fatty acid profiles not the numbers on a soap calculator.
Nice idea but its just not that easy.

 

[MooreThanBags]

I great bubbles in my soap by adding castor oil at 3-5%; any higher and your soap can be sticky and hard to unmold. I put my soap in the freezer for 25 minutes and it unmolds every bath cleanly.

 

[DeeAnna]

Also what you wash with makes a difference -- bare skin, washcloth, bathing puff, etc. A low sudsing soap might not be my choice at the sink where I use cool water and bare hands, but it's fine in the shower with a puff and hot water. I really don't know how one can reduce all the esthetic and practical issues that affect lather into a set of numbers...

edit ... or pictures.

 

[Obsidian]

I'm surprised by the negativity. I know people take pics of lather and I really didn't think it would be a big deal if someone had pics like that for them to say what the bubble number was for the recipe. I know the numbers are just guidelines and there are variable but I still kinda thought it would be fun to see what people were producing.

 

[dagmar88]

I'm surprised by the negativity. I know people take pics of lather and I really didn't think it would be a big deal if someone had pics like that for them to say what the bubble number was for the recipe. I know the numbers are just guidelines and there are variable but I still kinda thought it would be fun to see what people were producing.

:neutral: I've read it back and don't see any of it; just answers to your question. That there is no standard amount of lather corresponding to numbers.

I was wondering if anyone has pictures of bubbles/lather of soap with different bubble numbers? I know how much bubble I like but I don't know what number on the soapcalc that corresponds to it.

If you had asked to see what others produce 'for fun', you would have gotten different answers.
However, I'm sorry you feel that way.

 

[Obsidian]

As said before, dissecting each property does not work.

And besides, if you really want answers you need to pay attention to the fatty acid profiles not the numbers on a soap calculator.
Nice idea but its just not that easy.

I really don't know how one can reduce all the esthetic and practical issues that affect lather into a set of numbers...

All these quotes feel negative and I don't see how they answer my question when I didn't actually ask a question. Never once did I ask what affects bubbles, closest I came was asking how much sugar to use.

Thank you to those who offered advice and what works for you. Those who feel they have to educate me can stop, its not helping.

 

[Rosnasharn Farm]

I am not meaning to be teaching you but I am here to learn and from what I have experienced here in Oz we dont use "lard" in our soaps 99% of us use Oils....and when I have used soaps from many of my American net friends I dont get the bubble numbers I do with just oils.

 

[MooreThanBags]

My bubbly number is pretty low for my soap 17-19. However I produces tons of lather and 40% of my recipe is lard. The other 60% is olive oil, coconut oil, & castor oil. I don't have any pictures of the bubbles.

 

[roseb]

Soap bubbles

Okay, so here are some pics of the soaps that I have presently;

1. 34% CO, 5% sweet almond, 32% OO, 13% new crisco, 10% castor, 1% stearic acid and goat milk (CP). Big bubbles and low creamy. Soapcalc number of 33 for bubbles and creamy 25.

2. 33% CO, 31% OO, 13% new crisco, 7% sweet almond, 3% castor, 5% jojoba, 1% stearic acid and goat milk (CP). bubbles and low creamy. Soapcalc number of 27 for bubbles and 20 for creamy.

3. 25% CO, 40% OO, 30% Palm, 3% castor and 2% sunflower at trace. (HP). Best with medium bubble and nice creamy lather. Soapcalc number of 20 for bubbles and creamy of 27.

So my soapcalc numbers do reflect the end product. My fav recipe so far is #3. Nice experiment!

Lather achieved using warm (hard) water and rubbing my hands together.

 

[Obsidian]

@Rosnasharn Farm Is there any reason animal fats aren't used often in Oz? I know it can really affect bubble production. My 100% lard bars doesn't have much for bubbles.

@MooreThanBags do you use sugar in your recipes? I made a 50% lard batch and used sugar, it immediately produced a fantastic lather.

@roseb
Thank you for the pictures. Most of my soap produces similar. I will get pictures of mine today.

 

[Obsidian]

Here are my pics. Used warm water and rubbed with my hands.

This one has stable bubbles not not much for cream, it feels nice though

probably my favorite so far

thin everything but leaves skin nice

really creamy, should cure nice