Options for saving a badly accelerated / seized soap (not lye-heavy)

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Hello! At risk of being incredibly unoriginal... longtime lurker, first-time poster here. I'm hoping I can get some sage advice from the experts.
Brief background: I started making CP goat milk soap 4 or 5 years ago as a way to use excess milk from our herd of Nigerians-- and was pleasantly surprised by how much I loved it, and learning about the process. I am no expert, I don't sell, just make it for fun and for family use. I've been doing it long enough to be generally comfortable (*ahem* or dangerous?), but I don't know what to do with seized soap :oops:. I've made probably 25-30 batches and haven't had a failed batch yet, so I guess I got a little complacent:

I used a new EO blend, with a new salt bar recipe, in a two pound (plus salt) batch. Gosh, what could go wrong?? So, of course, it seized. This was the recipe (intended to be a gift for my sister, who loves Shea butter and Ylang Ylang):

80% Coconut Oil
15% Shea Butter
5% Castor Oil
15%SF, 35% lye concentration, Frozen goat milk as full water replacement

EO Blend @ 7.5% of oils (I was aiming for 5% of oils + salt-- but wasn't able to add the salt I'd weighed out at 50% of oils because of how fast the batter thickened): 25% Ylang Ylang, 28% Geranium, 16% Cedarwood, 18% Ho Wood, 13% Lavender (Mixed with 2 tsp Kaolin clay & the Castor Oil)

I stick-blended the essential oil/clay/Castor mixture into the oils before adding the lye & milk. Lye went in at 90 F when the oils were 125 F (I typically soap cooler, but was more focused on preventing a false trace from the Shea butter & Coconut Oil resolidifying than on avoiding acceleration from heat). I stick blended for maaaaaybe 2-3 seconds, and the batter near-instantly thickened to a thick trace, and the 15-20 seconds I stood there stirring with a spatula and gaping at it in shock ensured I had no time to add the 50% salt before hastily trying to cram the mashed potato-like soap batter into a loaf mold and oven processing to try and gel in the hopes it would melt together and look a little nicer (it didn't go above 140).


I *think* I've narrowed the reason(s) down to the three most likely culprits: 1) not enough water milk for using hard oils/butter 2) too high of temps for using accelerating floral EOs, and 3) mixing said accelerating EOs plus clay into the oils before the lye. I was able to remake the recipe (in a smaller batch size) yesterday, correcting those three issues, with success (yay!). So if nothing else, I learned a few things!

What I'm looking for now is how to best save the two lb log of ugly, clumpy, dry-on-top, seeping-on-bottom soap. I have never done HP or a rebatch. I'm not necessarily opposed to rebatching, but don't really want to do the crockpot method.

This soap isn't lye-heavy-- but it is essential oil-heavy-- and I don't think it'd make a good non-salt bar because of the high CO content. Can salt be added in a rebatch? Or should I shred it and use it as ciaglia in an unscented batch or two to dilute the essential oils? Could I chop it into 1/2" cubes and use it as embeds in an unscented soap? Can I use a different base recipe, or would that cause problems?

Sorry for writing a book... I'd be so thankful if any of the SMF experts have any advice on how to save my soap!

Thanks for reading (if you got this far!)

ETA pictures of soap. Top of loaf is lighter in color, bottom is darker from partial gel I think.
 

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Here is a link for how to oven rebatch as well as crockpot rebatch. It's worked well for me. I've never tried adding salt to a rebatch but you might be able to if you disolved the salt in the water before adding it to the rebatch. Someone more experienced might have a better idea.
When in doubt I love the ciaglia method for using soap scraps/"bad" batches. It always makes such pretty soap.
 

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