OH WOW. Danger. Update.....Everything is OK!

[cdc]

Soooooooo...... Maybe I was a littllllle to impatient.

Daddy took the little one out for an hour, and I sped through the first step.

I had the oils warming in my crock pot, and I think the oil was too hot, the lye water too hot...and when I put them together and started to mix,....instant volcano. I stirred and panicked as I watched it climb up and threaten to jump out the top of the crock pot (which was off).

Then I dumped a glass of water in it that was sitting near by to cool it down just in time.

So. Now I have too much water in my mix.

And dont even know if I got to trace.

what do I do.

Can I let it cool a bit and try to blend again? Is it already cooking so trace is past?

Will the water evaporate out eventually?

This was supposed to be HP.

Teach me to hurry.

At least I did not end up with boiling soap all over me.

Edit;;;;;;;;

I put the stick blender to it, and it whipped up like marshmallow cream and threatened to climb again. so I broke it down with the spoon.

It actually looks kinda gelly. In minutes. This has taken literally 10 minutes. Im so confused. :shock:



Ok, here she is 24 hours later...not looking too bad!

I still have a log in my pvc mold. no idea how I am going to get that out, it is kinda soft. Maybe I will give it a couple more days to harden up. this is soft, but consistant, and smells like lemon custard. I swear it is like a big lemon curd cake. I am not going to slice it yet, but I cut the ends off to peek inside.



EDIT_________

I cut it and...........It works! It is totally fine! Still a bit softer then you would expect from a few days cure on HP, but sort of like you would expect from a couple days post CP. A little gelly soft, but basically fine! !!!

YAY!

 

[holly99]

I'm sorry I'm going to be no help but I am not having a good CPHP day either! I was in a panic because I didn't know what to do!

 

[IanT]

welcome to soapmaking! lol...it happens... good news is it can be fixed. did you add fragrance? and if so... when?

It may just need to be liquid soap lol or you can leave it in the mold longer...it may eventually evaporate out...do you have any pics?

 

[cdc]

Ok. Uh, I think it is done. but, it is soft. What do I do? Keep it warm and mix it with another batch with less water? I need more oil...requires a trip to the store.

the original recipe had 14 oz water, I dumped about 8 more in. will that ever dry? :roll:

 

[cdc]

No fragrance yet.

Can you "cook" some of the moisture out??? Like reducing in cooking?

 

[IanT]

That doesnt look so bad...... dont add more oil unless you add more lye...in which case youd need to recalculate the whole recipe...


I would slop it into your mold of choice, turn your oven on low for like 5 mins... let it cool a bit, then after the elements are all cool to a non-flammable point put your mold in the oven while its still relatively warm and let it set overnight.... it should be fine

 

[IanT]

No fragrance yet.

Can you "cook" some of the moisture out??? Like reducing in cooking?

yes you could probably do that... but you may cook too much of it out before the lye has a chance to react with it...which would make your soap lye heavy ...baaaaad ...

so id say itd be safer to leave it til it sets and see what it does... then you can always rebatch... or pat dry the water that bleeds out

 

[cdc]

Thanks!

And, uh, remind me not to do THAT again. Thank god the 2 year old was not in the room.

 

[IanT]

Thanks!

And, uh, remind me not to do THAT again. Thank god the 2 year old was not in the room.

lol no worries!

Congrats on your first batch!!!

I would say from what it looks like... it tried to seize on ya... possibly.... but trace is when the spoon you are stirring with will start to leave trails of soap slurry on top of the batter before settling back down into it... I can tell that it DID go into trace from your pic... at least thats what it looks like from here


Give us updates when it starts to solidify!



Edit....

Do you mind posting your recipe?

 

[cdc]

Oh no, not my first batch, just my latest disaster!

It was supposed to be crock pot HP.

Normally, I heat the oils and let them melt, let the lye/water dissolve outside until I am ready for it. I check the temps to make sure they are about the same....but dont really worry about it.

This time, I had the oils in the crock pot waiting for hubby to get home from work, and the water and lye outside waiting to be mixed. Once he wisked the baby away for a bike ride, I dumped the lye into the water and mixed. Then, after just a few minutes, dumped the lye/water into the oil.

I did not check the oil temp. I think it was probably too hot from sitting in the crock pot for hours waiting for hubby.

So, the lye/water was hot from having been freshly mixed, and the oil was hot from having been recently melted in the crock pot.

I put them together and got the SB out. Before they got to trace, they started to volcano. Bubbling foaming horrible terror volcano. If I stopped SBing, it climbed faster. I grabbed the spoon, and with the other hand, beat with that. Eventually, it was reaching the top of the crockpot.

I couldnt grab the hot crock pot and put it in the nearby sink without burning myself and spilling boiling hot oil on myself....I was ready to run away and let the stuff boil over onto my concrete countertops and slate floors...(pretty hard to damage) but at the last minute, grabbed a glass of water sitting by the sink and threw it in.

It cooled the mess down enough to get it into the sink.

After a couple minutes, I SBd it. It immediately pulled together, looked like a hard trace, then marshmallow cream, then Vaseline. In literally 30 seconds with the SB.

This whole disaster, including running to the computer for help, took 10 minutes.

Following IanT's advice, I dumped it into my molds....after some fragrance, and we will see what happens. It is loose...but not totally. I am going to give it a rest in the oven to make sure it has time to finish thinking about its adventure, and hopefully let loose some of that moisture. Or, at least one of my molds. The other wont fit in the oven.

So. I will let you know how it goes. I could always rebatch!

Recipe:

Crisco 20 oz
co 10 oz
olive 6oz
shea 20z
castor 6.5oz
water (before glass!) 14
lye 6.4

Broken into 2 molds, scented with 1 oz lemon .5 lavender eo / .75 coco lime verbena.

The really rotten thing is that this was supposed to be a comparison between a CP of the same recipe I did earlier in the week. You know , apples to apples to see how hp/cp compares? Not the best experiment. Hm.

Thanks for being here.

 

[Guest]

You never know what it will be like when it has cured . It could surprise you and turn out exactly as you wanted

Kitn

 

[IanT]

You never know what it will be like when it has cured . It could surprise you and turn out exactly as you wanted

Kitn

exactly... i had a soap that was oo, co and castor and it was really mushy til about 4 to 5 weeks in, then it was my favorite soap ! lol

 

[jennikate]

Glad little one was out with daddy. I have two so I know that was scary.

 

[honor435]

hmmm, welcome to soaping.
I never check temps with hp, my oils are hot(crock on high) and lye is hot, then i mix with sb to trace, maybe it was the crisco? ive had volcano before, but not right away. I usually only use 3 oz of castor, you have 14%, i do think when i used more than 10% i had a problem.

 

[cdc]

I dont know. This is not a new recipe, just hotter than usual. Maybe the lye water was crazy hot still. Maybe there was some undissolved lye???

 

[honor435]

I dont know either, i aways dump my lye/water in right after dissolved, so its very hot and never had a prob?

 

[cdc]

Well, I left one in the oven overnight, and it is fairly hard this morning. I will prob have to leave it in the mold a couple more days...I think it is too soft to cut without it going all mushy...but it might work.

It is in a silicon mold, so I have pulled the sides away and poked at it, it is not tooo bad....

 

[Bnky]

I hope it turns out for you, it sounds like it will beautiful scent if it does>

 

[beautifulbay]

wow...lesson learned, do not rush your soap making. I've learned not to make soap unless I really have a couple of hours to devote to it...not only because of messing it up, but because lye needs to handled so carefully. I can only imagine the amount of accidents that have happened only because of rushing.

Please slow down and be careful...

but in the meantime....I'd love to know what you do with your soap and what worked for it. good luck!!

 

[cdc]

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