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sugarplum9085

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I am trying to get things around for my first batch of soap (CP), not sure of the recipe yet, but I want to get the basic tools and then figure it out from there.
I am wondering if it is absolutely necessary to get a digital scale. Can you use a more manual kitchen scale for liquids and such or would that be too difficult? Anyone here use an older scale?
Since I am going back to college at the end of the month I want to be a bit economical.
Thanks!

PS. - What are some easy do-it-yourself mold ideas to save on costs? Would a lined, hole-less, rectangular flower pot work?
 
Accurate measurements are extremely important. I wouldn't skimp on the scale. You can save money in other areas. A box like you described or even a shoebox makes a nice mold. Just line them with some freezer paper. Why don't you check your local Goodwill or second hand stores for some of the items you will need.
 
This might be too much mold info, but it's easier to copy/paste from my blog.

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PVC Pipe – Great for making round soap. Molds don’t need to be lined but can be prepared with mineral oil to help soap release easier. After pouring in soap, cover with plastic wrap and a dish towel to insulate the top of mold. Leave soap in mold for 24-48 hours, pop in freezer for an hour and push soap out one end. Slice to desired thickness. I typically get a full gel using PVC pipe. These are the molds that I use in all of my Cold Process Soap classes that I teach. They’re inexpensive and can be used over and over again.

Yogurt cups, Cream Cheese containers and other plastic food containers – Great for small batches or “overflow”. I keep a handful of these containers around for left over soap after I’ve poured my wooden loaf mold. They do not need to be lined.

Shoe boxes and other cardboard boxes – These molds need to be lined. They must be insulated well if you want a full gel. Use towels, blankets and even a warm heating pad to help force gel.

Plastic storage boxes and Tupper Ware containers – If containers are thicker and not easily flexible, you will need to line in order to remove your soap easier. If the container is more flexible, then you may not need to line. They must be insulated well if you want a full gel. Use towels, blankets and even a warm heating pad to help force gel.

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Silicone Baking Ware – Great for soaping! These types of molds do not require lining and soap is easily removed because of the flexibility. They must be insulated well if you want a full gel. Use towels, blankets and even a warm heating pad to help force gel. Since silicone can withstand high heat, you can even put your mold in a warm oven to help force gel.

Pringles Cans – Can be used lined or not. If not lined, you can simply peel the container away from the soap and throw away. If you line with freezer paper, you can sometimes get more than one use out of the container. They must be insulated well if you want a full gel or can be put into the fridge or freezer to prevent gel.

Orange Juice Containers – Square cardboard orange juice containers make great molds and produce large square bars of soap. You do not need to line them since they have the waxy coating to begin with. Once your soap hardens you can peel away the container. They must be insulated well if you want a full gel or can be put into the fridge or freezer to prevent gel.

Other molds you can use include wooden drawers, cigar boxes, shipping tubes…the list goes on and on.

Hope that helps!

Amanda
 
Yeah, all sorts of things make nice molds. besides the freezer paper lined boxes, I like paper hot coffee cups (don't use plastic or thinner cold cups)

I know someone who uses washed individual baby food containers, the rectangular plastic ones.


Besides used stores, perhaps tell your friends and relatives you are looking for stuff. After I bought my stickblender I mentioned to my friends that I bought it...unbelievable how many people said "oh, I never use mine, I would have given it to you..."
 
ToniD said:
Besides used stores, perhaps tell your friends and relatives you are looking for stuff. After I bought my stickblender I mentioned to my friends that I bought it...unbelievable how many people said "oh, I never use mine, I would have given it to you..."

Lol, so true! Crockpots also. You'd be suprised.

Thrift stores are great to visit. I always find silicone bakeware and bowls/mixing containers.
 
Oh awesome ideas!
I am going to call ACE and see if they have lye, and since there is a thrift store on the way I think I will take a look!
Perhaps tomorrows mission will be to go to the amish grocery store and get really discounted oils for like $1-2 each for large containers (I love Pennsylvania!).

Looks like I will be getting an electronic scale.
 
OH, Amish stores!!! (well old order Mennonite for the one I go to) The oils in the one near me are pretty expensive, compared to online, but some of the other stuff I can find that I can't anywhere else locally. I love it.
 
So I just got back from Bed Bath & Beyond and the thrift store. I got three cardboard "molds" for 50 cents each with lids at the salvation army, the hardest part for me will be lining them without getting creases in the soap.
I also got myself an electric scale for $19 at BB&B, seems to work quite well, measures to the 0.1 oz. So I am excited!
I called ACE and they did not have lye, the manager seemed awfully suspicious of my intentions haha; I wonder what she would think if she knew I bought a scale today as well :lol:


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and of course here is my 'helper'

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Yeah know what? I called ace and asked for lye and they told me nope...don't have it. I went in and it was sitting right there on the shelf by the drain supplies.

Most ace hardware stores have it. Alot of people don't know what it is. I would go check it out.
 
As for the lye-I just asked what types of drain cleaners they had....they go thru the general list and I ask if any of them are 100% lye. Some do-some don't...it's kinda hit or miss since Red Devil pulled from the market.
 
Those look like they will make nice molds. I have a piece of styrofoam that I cut to fit inside my mold. I wrap it like I am wrapping a present (three sided of course) and then the freezer paper slides right inside the mold easily.

humm, usually ACE carries lye It is possible the person you spoke to would have called it "Rooto Drain Opener". I would suggest you ask for that.

So much fun to keep getting closer to your quest!
 
Yeah, I asked her if she had any rooto or ruebic crystal drain cleaners, and she said she had nothing with pure lye in it. I guess I will either buy it online via thelyeguy.com or drive 30 minutes to ACE. I can't find what his shipping fees are though, anyone know?

I actually just found a blender in the house that was never used, it is not a stick blender but similar, with the staff shape, but the actual blending device has 2 possible extensions, a wisk, and the most common blender extension with the 4 metal "wisks". Could that be used?

If so, all I need to get are the discounted oils at the amish store, and some lye, and then I am off!
 
you might also look at some of the more rinky-dink stores. i got some lye for $2.49 per lb at one(Piggly Wiggly) that is walking distance from my house. (i was an oz short of lye to make soap today and DH had the car so off we went...walked 2 miles to the store and 2 miles back)
 
sugarplum9085 said:
Yeah, I asked her if she had any rooto or ruebic crystal drain cleaners, and she said she had nothing with pure lye in it. I guess I will either buy it online via thelyeguy.com or drive 30 minutes to ACE. I can't find what his shipping fees are though, anyone know?

I got my lye from this website. I think their pricing is very good.
http://www.essentialdepot.com
 
agriffin said:
This might be too much mold info, but it's easier to copy/paste from my blog.

IMG_0194-150x150.jpg


PVC Pipe – Great for making round soap. Molds don’t need to be lined but can be prepared with mineral oil to help soap release easier. After pouring in soap, cover with plastic wrap and a dish towel to insulate the top of mold. Leave soap in mold for 24-48 hours, pop in freezer for an hour and push soap out one end. Slice to desired thickness. I typically get a full gel using PVC pipe. These are the molds that I use in all of my Cold Process Soap classes that I teach. They’re inexpensive and can be used over and over again.

Yogurt cups, Cream Cheese containers and other plastic food containers – Great for small batches or “overflow”. I keep a handful of these containers around for left over soap after I’ve poured my wooden loaf mold. They do not need to be lined.

Shoe boxes and other cardboard boxes – These molds need to be lined. They must be insulated well if you want a full gel. Use towels, blankets and even a warm heating pad to help force gel.

Plastic storage boxes and Tupper Ware containers – If containers are thicker and not easily flexible, you will need to line in order to remove your soap easier. If the container is more flexible, then you may not need to line. They must be insulated well if you want a full gel. Use towels, blankets and even a warm heating pad to help force gel.

IMG_0192-150x150.jpg


Silicone Baking Ware – Great for soaping! These types of molds do not require lining and soap is easily removed because of the flexibility. They must be insulated well if you want a full gel. Use towels, blankets and even a warm heating pad to help force gel. Since silicone can withstand high heat, you can even put your mold in a warm oven to help force gel.

Pringles Cans – Can be used lined or not. If not lined, you can simply peel the container away from the soap and throw away. If you line with freezer paper, you can sometimes get more than one use out of the container. They must be insulated well if you want a full gel or can be put into the fridge or freezer to prevent gel.

Orange Juice Containers – Square cardboard orange juice containers make great molds and produce large square bars of soap. You do not need to line them since they have the waxy coating to begin with. Once your soap hardens you can peel away the container. They must be insulated well if you want a full gel or can be put into the fridge or freezer to prevent gel.

Other molds you can use include wooden drawers, cigar boxes, shipping tubes…the list goes on and on.

Hope that helps!

Amanda

What length and diameter pvc would you use for a 3 lb batch??
 
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