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hi everyone im wanting to make a lil balm that’s more of a cream base in a squeeze lip container the one with a curved angle to apply to your lips directly. I was wondering if i melt petroleum jelly and colourant etc would it solidify at all and will it be more like pawpaw ointment cream.

Any recipes or ideas are great
thank you
Shaina
 
Most people on this forum tend to use ingredients that aren't petroleum based (petroleum jelly, mineral oil, baby oil, etc.). So I'm not sure if you'll get much response to your question.

What I can tell you is if you melt petroleum jelly, add some colorant, and let the mixture solidify again, the petroleum jelly will be about as soft as it was at first. You're adding nothing to add firmness. So if you want it firmer, you need to add a wax (like beeswax) or a fat that's solid at room temperature (such as shea or cocoa butter).

I have no idea what pawpaw ointment is and I bet others are puzzled too. We're from all over the world, so a brand or product that's familiar to people where you live, might be a mystery to others. Maybe give a link to the product so interested folks can understand better what you're talking about?

We have some great threads about lip balm on this forum. You might use the search engine to see what people have shared in other threads. Here are some to get you started:

https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/lip-balm.74860/

https://www.soapmakingforum.com/threads/successful-first-time-lip-balm.86283/
The OP of this thread, @Zing, is our lotion bar king. Since lip balm is very similar to lotion bars, his advice carries over to lip balm as well. He's coached many people new to these products.
 
Sorry that I can't help you because I have no experience with petroleum jelly. My and my friends love my lip balm, though, and I just whipped up another batch. All the credit goes to @IrishLass because my recipe is based on hers and this NorwegianLad is grateful.

And don't even get me started on lotion bars! Cheap! Fast! Easy!

Thanks for the shout out, @DeeAnna aka Chemistry Queen.
 
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@DeeAnna makes a great lip balm, too. Her recipe that I use is in this post…it’s too solid for the type of tube you are referencing, but it’s really nice.

I've shared my lip balm elsewhere on SMF, but here it is again. Like Irish Lass's recipe, this one is another example of lip balm without nut butters --

Dee's Bees Lip Balm

Liquid oil #1 (high oleic sunflower is a good choice) ... 33.8%
Liquid oil #2 (jojoba is nice) ... 33.8%
Beeswax ... 31.5%

Essential oil blend (optional):
Sweet orange ... 0.5%
Red mandarin ... 0.3%
Rosemary verbenon ... 0.1%

Total ... 100%

All ingredients are measured by weight, not volume

Measure the beeswax and liquid fats into a small heat-proof container sitting in a warm water bath (bain marie). For this type of recipe, I often use a small glass canning jar to hold the fats and immerse it in a small saucepan of warm water that's as deep as possible. The deep pan of water warms the glass closer to the rim, so the balm remains more liquid as I pour it.

Warm the water in the bath to about 180F / 80C and let the beeswax melt, stirring occasionally. When fully melted and the mixture is clear, stir in the essential oil blend or other fragrance. Immediately pour into lip balm tubes or other containers. Let the balm cool undisturbed until the product is firm.

A 275 gram batch will fill about 50 regular-size (0.15 oz) lip balm tubes. A 90 gram batch will fill about 16 tubes.

This recipe as written passes my "pocket test" -- the balm in a regular lip balm tube doesn't melt in my pants pocket. It also passes the Iowa winter test -- the balm remains soft enough when it's cold to glide smoothly over sore chapped lips.

Your results may be different than mine, however, so plan to test and adjust the proportions to get the consistency you want. More wax (or less oil) will make the balm firmer and more melt resistant. Less wax (or more oil) will make the balm softer and more melty.

This recipe can be used on the face or other skin -- "Egyptian Magic" is one commercial product like this and another is Cindy Joseph's "Boom" sticks. To adapt this recipe to be more similar to the Boom and Egyptian Magic facial sticks, I'd replace the sunflower and jojoba with mildly-scented olive oil. If the beeswax is from a local beekeeper, the wax will naturally have propolis and pollen in it -- the lemon to butter yellow color is proof of that. If the beeswax is a nearly white product from a B&B supplier, it's most likely been filtered, deodorized, and bleached, so none of the propolis or pollen (or the wonderful scent) remains.

Boom sticks also have honey in them (not sure about the Egyptian Magic, speaking from memory.) You're on your own if you want to add water-soluble ingredients such as honey. Without an emulsifier, the honey may separate out unless you use only a tiny, tiny amount of honey. Also, adding a lip-safe preservative is mandatory if using honey, because honey will not function as a preservative when diluted. I want my balm simple to make and safe to use, so I never include water soluble ingredients.

Also see Boomsilk moisturizer dupe
 
Petroleum jelly isn't a natural product so most people don't use it. I use oils, waxes, etc in mine. Petroleum jelly won't solidify at any time. I highly suggest doing some more research on what goes into lip balms.
 
Petroleum jelly has been covered.

I started with lip balm. moved to salves, butters and soaps because they all use the same kitchen oils. If you look up simple recipes in those categories, you should be able to figure a few base ingredients.

I strongly suggest a bunch of posts. I Watched a dozen shae recipes before tempering was mentioned to prevent the lumps I was getting.

I'm still figuring out ho to temper my shae/cocoa butter mix. But I found the oils that had the characteristics I wanted and just started mixing from there. $5 at a thrift store got me a single coffee cup warmer and a couple metal shot glasses to tweak my recipe.

I moved away from beeswax because of clogged pores and still managed a dryer survivable tube/ball recipe. But you're asking about a texture I have no experience to advise with. But I'd guess it's 99% about the mix ratio lol
 
I am one of the people who knows what Paw Paw Ointment is (very popular in Australia). Paw ointment uses petroleum jelly (Vaseline) as the base so if you use petroleum jelly as the base of your lip balm it will be similar consistency as long as you don't add too much extra.

If you want a more natural option you could try a combination castor oil and beeswax which is sometimes referred to as Non-petroleum jelly or castor oil jelly.
 
hi everyone im wanting to make a lil balm that’s more of a cream base in a squeeze lip container the one with a curved angle to apply to your lips directly. I was wondering if i melt petroleum jelly and colourant etc would it solidify at all and will it be more like pawpaw ointment cream.
You'd be better off just buying papaw ointment, you are not going to get a cream from petroleum jelly, papaw ointment has petroleum jelly, wax, potassium sorbate, gum balsam peru and papaw in it. Papaw ointment is not a cream. Not sure why you would need to add colour to petroleum jelly to use.

@DeeAnna, papaw ointment has been around in Australia since the late 1800's, it's one of those go to things a lot of people have available. It's specific to Australia. Good for cracked skin, sunburn, minor burns, cuts, abrasions, insect bites, nappy rash, chapped lips, chafed skin.
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I've never used it because I don't like petroleum jelly, although the dermatologist has told me to use vaseline in the past on my scars for healing.
 
The more you know! Wow. Never heard of this Australian paw paw or papaw before, fascinating.

When we lived in Chicago we had a Paw Paw tree. The fruit was delicious. It was like a short stubby banana and the fruit had a custard-like consistency. It blew me away initially, and was delicious. The fruit was so fragile, though, which is why you never saw it in retail outlets. The tree was indigenous to the area.

And there is a folk song that I can't put my finger on it but has the line "way down younder in the Paw Paw Patch. The Paw Paw Patch. The Paw Paw Patch. Way down younder in the Paw Paw Patch."
 
Pawpaws are available here in supermarkets and fruit shops, I want to get a green one and make a pawpaw salad. That reminds me to keep an eye out as they are around now.
 

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