Lip balm? Lip stick?

[Soapy Gurl]

What is different between a lip balm recipe and a lip stick recipe? My friend asked me if I had a lip stick recipe, which I don't. I figured it was pretty much the same as lip balm but with a lot of colorant. But commercially they have a much creamier texture. I don't know, please help!

 

[IrishLass]

I don't know for sure (never really looked into it too hard as of yet), but from making my own tinted lip balms (for myself only), my guess is that lipsticks have extra additives that help the color to stay more uniform or from migrating when on your lips.

Hopefully others with more knowlege will chime in.

IrishLass

 

[ToniD]

I never did one, but they have lots of Recipes at tkb trading on the recipe tab

 

[welovesoap]

Brambleberry has a recipe... it's apparently just a matter of adding a LOT more mica to your lip balm recipe.

 

[Soapy Gurl]

Thanks for recipe ideas. I checked them out and they gave me some ideas. I have made a lip tint before with burgundy oxide. I swear it was almost black and it barely left color on the lips! Scary to think what commercial companies do...

 

[BakingNana]

You can see what Conservatorie uses in their lipstick bases here:

http://theconservatorie.com/1-p-2946.html#fragment-8

 

[phoenixL]

Try adding lanolin to your colored lip balm/lip stick recipe. I think I read somewhere that lanolin is what makes the color shows up on lips. I haven't tried it myself though. I tried one without lanolin and the color doesn't show up well.

 

[IrishLass]

I get great color in mine, and I don't use lanolin. My problem is that the color migrates a little when on the lips or looks uneven, i.e., some areas look a little darker on my lips than others. It's not extremely noticeable, mind you, and if one were to look they might probably wonder what the heck I'm talking about , but since I'm the one making it, I tend to look at things with an extra critical eye. Maybe I'm just not mixing as well as I thought I was- or when the balm was hardening, some of the colorant was coming out of suspension or settling. That's why I was wondering if lip stick manufacturers add something to help keep the color uniform or from settling. I do use my freezer to help get a quick set, but maybe it's just not quick enough.


IrishLass

 

[fiddletree]

I haven't yet made lipsticks, but I've been learning a lot about them lately. I have learned tons from the Aroma Zone website...it is in French, but I put it through google translate and it does a pretty good job. Go under the makeup section, click on the lipstick link and it will lead you to a bunch of tutorials. Granted, they are recipes using their ingredients, which you can't get if you are based in the US but you should be able to find equivalents through US suppliers.

Here's the translated link: http://translate.google.com/transla...=http://www.aroma-zone.com/aroma/recettes.asp

 

[Lindy]

With lipsticks you are looking for a but harder recipe and they are usually using at least 2 different types of wax. TKB is definitely a great place to look and they have the molds as well as the tubes. Takes a lot of experimenting to get it just right, and although I do make them I'm still not 100% happy.

 

[adelej]

I think adding titanium dioxide makes colours more opaque. Also using harder waxes maybe? I would like to know myself as I want to try making tinted balms and lipstick myself...

 

[phoenixL]

With lipsticks you are looking for a but harder recipe and they are usually using at least 2 different types of wax. TKB is definitely a great place to look and they have the molds as well as the tubes. Takes a lot of experimenting to get it just right, and although I do make them I'm still not 100% happy.

Do you have a recipe that you can share with us? Perhaps a simple recipe that works for you. Thanks.

 

[carebear]

It's generally frowned upon to ask for someone's recipe. Perhaps ask for guidelines or a starting point but to ask directly for the recipe is to ask someone you don't know to hand over something they've probably spent considerable time and money developing. As Lindy already wrote, it took a lot of experimenting on her part...

A few will, indeed, share their recipes but many prefer not to.

 

[phoenixL]

Sorry about that! I am quite new to the forum and wasn't aware of the etiquette.

 

[carebear]

I'm sure no harm was done. But sometimes its good to put it out there for everyone.

 

[Lindy]

No harm done at all. I'm working with recipes from TKB - lots of tweaking and as I say I'm still not 100% happy with it. More tweakings to come... :wink:

 

[phoenixL]

Thanks, Lindy. It seems like a cool website. I may try out some of their recipes.

 

[Soapy Gurl]

Lindy, those are beautiful! I love the color.

I appreciate all the help I am receiving on this. Thank you!

 

[Lindy]

Thank you - it's a fun journey and I hoe you enjoy it too...

 

[dubnica]

Speaking of lipsticks...this is interesting:

http://shine.yahoo.com/at-home/lead-lip ... 00618.html