I made the sensitive skin bar (FKA "eczema bar")!

[Chefmom]

I just had a lightbulb moment when I read this! I didn't even consider saving some batter and HP'ing it!!!

Ok...hijacking this for a sec...will the HP soap have the same properties/feel as the CP soap once the CP soap is cured 8 weeks?

Excited about this prospect!

Um....yes....and no.....

If you make a recipe and pour half in a mold to CP it...and half in a crock pot to HP it....and then put both of them up for the usual 6 weeks...then test them for the most part they will be the same. I have noticed subtle differences, mostly in the lather in the same recipes CP or HP.

If you try that HP the next day, well, yes...you CAN use it, it won't zap you etc and it will bubble, but you won't get the full picture of what the soap is until it cures...just like CP. It will come into its own after the cure, just like any other cold process soap.

I have done this experiment myself. One morning I made a recipe and put it into the crock pot...then made the same recipe and cold processed it. Side by side they cured and then were tested. No one in my family or friends could tell the difference between the two soaps besides the subtle differences in the more rough texture of the hot process. It's the only way to know...make two small batches and do it for yourself.

 

[Hazel]

I don't mind the debate at all! In fact, I think that is doing wonders for my soaping education.

Thank you for the link! I can't wait to read through it all!

I just ordered some mango butter a few days ago. I will definitely put it in my first face soap. I need a good toning. and I am currently using a high priced facial line. I'm not convinced that it's doing me any good. I don't have any babassu oil on hand but I can fix that.

I'm glad I didn't upset you. I have a bad habit of going off topic even though I try to control myself.

You're welcome about the link! I was very surprised when I saw that babassu is good for eczema. I'll have to make a note about it. I don't think my previous post was clear about why I use such a range of percentages. I change recipes depending on the season and who will get the soap. Nephews and nieces get a higher percentage of babassu because it's fantastic for clearing up acne. I will be making a couple of facial bar batches in a couple of weeks because one batch will be for dry/sensitive skin and the other will be for oily/acneic skin. Pretty much the same oils, just different percentages. I'm out of hazelnut oil so I may have to sub if I can't find some at a reasonable price.

I'm also not sure where to recommend for buying babassu. I bought a pound from WSP because I had been intending on getting some and it helped me reach the minimum purchase amount. I thought the price was a little high but I was placing an order anyway and I didn't want to search around for a better price. Even if I had found it cheaper, I would have had to pay shipping which might have bumped it up so it would have cost more.

I think I've also read tallow is good for toning skin. It was on a skin care forum and I'll try to find it again. I was looking for info on something else, read about tallow in passing, thought "hmm...interesting" and clicked off the page. Now I'm kicking myself that I didn't bookmark the page to return to later. When I find it, I'll start a topic about oils that are considered good for skin tone.

 

[JayJay]

I'm glad I didn't upset you. I have a bad habit of going off topic even though I try to control myself.

You're welcome about the link! I was very surprised when I saw that babassu is good for eczema. I'll have to make a note about it. I don't think my previous post was clear about why I use such a range of percentages. I change recipes depending on the season and who will get the soap. Nephews and nieces get a higher percentage of babassu because it's fantastic for clearing up acne. I will be making a couple of facial bar batches in a couple of weeks because one batch will be for dry/sensitive skin and the other will be for oily/acneic skin. Pretty much the same oils, just different percentages. I'm out of hazelnut oil so I may have to sub if I can't find some at a reasonable price.

I'm also not sure where to recommend for buying babassu. I bought a pound from WSP because I had been intending on getting some and it helped me reach the minimum purchase amount. I thought the price was a little high but I was placing an order anyway and I didn't want to search around for a better price. Even if I had found it cheaper, I would have had to pay shipping which might have bumped it up so it would have cost more.

I think I've also read tallow is good for toning skin. It was on a skin care forum and I'll try to find it again. I was looking for info on something else, read about tallow in passing, thought "hmm...interesting" and clicked off the page. Now I'm kicking myself that I didn't bookmark the page to return to later. When I find it, I'll start a topic about oils that are considered good for skin tone.

That would be wonderful! if I find good info, I will do the same.

 

[Dahila]

I went through lard soaps; awesome, I had done combination of Lard and tallow even better. Now I will make a few with tallow and lard. The properties are the same different, slightly different number in conditioning. I need to use my huge bucket of tallow) Every my soap contains tallow and lard. Some only lard. The veggie soaps have different feel, my skin is not so smooth after veggies soap. To get decent (for me) soap veggie oils I must add some cocoa butter, then it is workable for me)

Everyday for over a year I drink in the morning gelatine which is made of animals, I can finally type, and cook, cut veggies without a pain in my hands. My knees do not exist anymore :crazy: no pain. Obviously my joints like it very much . It is another use for animal which otherwise would go to waste. I was vegan for years , never want to go there again..

 

[JayJay]

Hi everyone! Last week I posted a question about making an eczema safe soap for my coworkers hubby and toddler. I got LOADS of wonderful information, along with warnings against making soap (as a beginner) for people with eczema. As a result, I decided to just make a mild bar for myself instead of making and "eczema soap" for my co worker. People gave me lots of suggestions, including the following recipe from Susie.

"Try something like this, I think you will love it.

Coconut Oil 15%
Olive Oil 20-25%
Castor Oil 5%(got to have my lather)
The remainder in lard.
Superfat 5-8%(I do not like higher superfat, I think it decreases my lather)
Sugar 1 tsp/PPO

Cure minimum 4-6 weeks. Then please let us know what you think, so we can help you tweak it to your preferences.(Might be wise to start a new thread then with the recipe and what you think of it.)"

So, I tried it. It went off without a hitch! Here is a picture of the bars while they cure.

I also became anxious and cooked the extra batter in my crock pot so that I can test the soap sooner than 6 weeks. Hey, I'm still new and excited(hehe). Here is a pic of the HP soap as well.

I tested a little of the HP batch and I like it already. It feels silky to the touch and it feels gentle on my skin! Thanks Susie!

I really appreciate everyone for their help! I can't tell you how nice it is to have others to talk to about soap. No one in my real life is interested.

Thanks for being awesome!

Is this recipe suitable to use as a face soap?

 

[Susie]

JayJay, I am the wrong person to ask. I use the same soap on all of me. I don't use face creams, serums, lotions, potions, or even make up. I am allergic to too much. However, I am fortunate to have a clear complexion and few(as yet) wrinkles. I never understood why people think the skin on the face is different than anywhere else on the body.(I am a nurse, I know it is the exact same cells and tissues.)

 

[FlybyStardancer]

JayJay, I am the wrong person to ask. I use the same soap on all of me. I don't use face creams, serums, lotions, potions, or even make up. I am allergic to too much. However, I am fortunate to have a clear complexion and few(as yet) wrinkles. I never understood why people think the skin on the face is different than anywhere else on the body.(I am a nurse, I know it is the exact same cells and tissues.)

I think I can explain why people use different products on their face than the rest of their body... Because I can't use soap on my face. At all. Every time I try, the skin on my face gets SUPER oily, and that's even with soaps that have a cleansing value of 0. And yet I don't have that issue using soaps on the rest of my body. So I don't know WHY the skin on my face reacts the way it does...but it does.

 

[Susie]

Fair enough! And great explanation!

 

[not_ally]

Susie, I'll add, the skin on my face is much oilier than on the rest of my body. Ie; my legs are the driest, the arms are second. I usually use lotion w/a tiny bit of butter on those parts. But w/my face, I generally just rinse with water and at most may use a light cream/lotion. It would be so much easier if you could use the same things with all the bits!

 

[Dahila]

Same here; oily T-zone, Can not use soap even the gentlest one on my face, I made face wash with SCI and love it. Like not ally I have dry skin on my hands arms and legs. I use body butter (my production) with babbasu oil. Hazel mentioned that is good for eczema and it is, I make that body butter for my granchild and my son. They suffer with eczema.
Different people , different reaction. My hubby like Susie uses my soap on his hair, body, face)

 

[Seawolfe]

Yeah my hubby is like that too Dahlia. I typically use the same bars for body and face, but I find that do like my pure Castile by the sink for my face in the evening.